Brexit mega thread part 5 : new year new PM? Partygate continues...

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Blimey

She was "going nowhere" earlier today....bad new for De Pfeffle and Patel?

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/02/10/dame-cressida-dick-resigns-metropolitan-police-commissioner/

I have only read about John Major's speech, not heard it. However sounds like it was a good one.

Liz Truss in Russia

I felt it was like someone going into battle only armed with a peashooter instead of a rifle.

Got a real gut punch feeling when I saw the black cover

It is actually a very very dark navy and is exactly the same colour as the pre EU ones with the little windows on the front.

Chris Smith
@ledredman
There is nothing quite so ironic as Russians being pissed off having to deal with the idiotic Brexit government they worked so hard to install.

Liz Truss. A consummate professional.

twitter.com/ukiswitheu/status/1491816768788180992?s=20&t=eP69nDuBJNZkO-iCQpHZfQ

Reports of Johnson singing ‘I will survive’ is another infuriating demonstration of how this is one big Eton lark to him. Thousands have died unnecessarily on his watch, thousands of businesses have struggled with brexit red tape, and yet he bloody sings. Meanwhile Guto Harri sounds like a prince of a man, doesn’t he.

Guto Harri who now won't tweet anymore because his account was hacked when he retweeted a Johnson liar post?

All very Rooney v Vardy, just don't ask Liz in which sea the phone was dropped.

Macron refused to take a Russian Covid test so they couldn’t get hold of his DNA www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60346300

Do you think they got a sample from Liz Truss? What if they clone her?

Do you think they got a sample from Liz Truss?

I guess it would be 100% Stilton .

Ok it’s a slight derail but what is happening with the Ukraine and Russia (you know what I mean)… why now? What does Putin hope to get out of this? Will Ukraine fight back? Will anybody send troops to help? Is Putin ‘testing the waters’ to see what EU/UK/US will do in light of explicit aggression? What will China do? All very dark and worrying.

No idea but is very scary.

russia has form for using distractions to invade.
happened 1992(?) when everyone was busy with kuweit...

many countries have asked their citicens now and international troupes are rumoured to get ready.

I have seen warnings that they could move during the Olympics rather than wait until they are finished.

Are they circus troupes

@Ilovetommycat

Are they circus troupes

I wish they were. sorry, language confusion & spellcheck is awful if you switch between more than 2 languages all the time...

Unfortunately I only have one language. Didn't mean to seem rude, just thinking of the clowns that the UK has so far sent to negotiate.
Think Billy Smarts et al would have done better.

Now what was this about making our own laws? I agree it doesn't seem to apply for a business wholly within GB. But I don't think this is in the spirit of Brexit - we didn't need the EU don't forget.

Circus troupes sums it up.
This is brilliant, as usual:
twitter.com/secrettory12/status/1492409404402147329?s=20&t=GbE3yefppIzaUdTjPNJVFQ

Jonathan Friedland had this to say on JRSmug being Brexit Minister…

Take the Brexiters at their word – that leaving was about more than ending European immigration – and ask them to name some other reform that Britain badly needed but which proved unachievable so long as we remained in the EU: a specific change that only Brexit could unlock. The committed leaver will struggle and sputter, before either mentioning blue passports or else retreating into abstract nouns: “freedom” or “sovereignty”. Press them for a concrete, real-world benefit of Brexit, one that survives scrutiny, and they wilt

Which so aptly described the many many conversations on Westminstenders. Not so many posts now telling us how right they were to support leaving.

Instead, our putative benefit of Brexit will be lower car safety standards. I’m thinking that’s got to be JRM trolling us as a) who wants a less safe car to drive and b) he knows full well that car manufacturers wanting to ship to the EU cannot diverge from standards.

I keep saying I’m going to stop reading the news because it’s so infuriating to read about these utter mendacious wastrels being paid to run the country.

Instead, our putative benefit of Brexit will be lower car safety standards.

We were assured that the EU was holding us back from raising standards, as I recall. It was also stopping us reducing VAT on fuel, which hasn't yet happened. Why not?

That PNG courrier was entertaining. But FFS we are a laughing stock across the world.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6146905/We-DIDNT-win-war-PETER-HITCHENS-writes-provocative-book-challenging-think-WW2.html

Like us all, PETER HITCHENS grew up on stories of Britain’s heroic victory over Hitler... but now, without questioning the bravery of our troops, he’s written a book challenging all we think about WW2

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In a chilly, high-ceilinged room in a Sussex preparatory school in the winter of 1959, I work intently on my model of the destroyer HMS Cossack. Such models come in lurid cardboard boxes illustrated with pictures of aircraft, tanks and warships, amid scenes of fiery melodrama, guns emitting orange streaks of flame, and the smoke of battle. With these and our imaginations, we seek to recreate the thrill of the war we have just missed, in which our fathers fought and our mothers endured privations.

This is a war just over the horizon of time in which we wish we had taken part, and which dominates our boyish minds above all things. Courage in pursuit of goodness, in the face of a terrible enemy, was what we most believed in. Even the Crucifixion grew pale and faint in the lurid light of air raids and great columns of burning oil at Dunkirk.

@Peregrina

Now what was this about making our own laws? I agree it doesn't seem to apply for a business wholly within GB. But I don't think this is in the spirit of Brexit - we didn't need the EU don't forget.

I see that article quotes from a document on the gov.uk website:

“As the UK is no longer a member of the EU, there is no requirement to implement these changes domestically. The road transport section of the TCA does not oblige the UK to apply these changes or others to domestic road transport operations.”

That's an implied Brexit bonus for you - we don't have to implement these changes domestically. It only applies to vehicles used for international journeys, not to the man delivering your Amazon packages.

What the guidance doesn't make clear though is that even if we were still in the EU the new regulations would still only apply to vehicles used for international journeys. The regulations have no effect whatsoever on EU-based vehicles which don't carry out the international transport of goods.