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Brexit mega thread part 5 : new year new PM? Partygate continues...

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Opal8 · 14/01/2022 09:02

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Sostenueto · 25/01/2022 12:00

If the Tory party were serious about winning the next election they would get rid of Boris and his merry band of clowns.
Each hour that they delay makes a Labour victory more likely.

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Sostenueto · 25/01/2022 12:02

is the PM really ill as he is spending a lot of time in hospital, or is he just doing recce missions for American insurance firms? Let's face it, they're who the current government want to give them to.

The NHS has never been safe under the Tories.

TheABC · 25/01/2022 12:15

I'm amazed the Met has found the time in its busy schedule to think about 10 Downing Street.

Johnson is screwed over this. It does not matter if he stays for the next two days or two years. No one is going to forget it.

In effect he has paralyzed his own government and brought forward a criminal investigation through his own bad judgement. That's quite an achievement.

Sostenueto · 25/01/2022 13:26

It's going to take months maybe a year for the met to do it's business. It's such an obvious ploy used by the Tory party to delay an adverse report. They hope it's going to go away. It is not. If they think giving freedom to most of the population by lifting restrictions ( but not the immune compromised or vunerable who will again be locked up behind closed doors not living a life) I think he may find that people will look at him and know for sure what he is. A man with no honour integrity or decency who took the public for mugs who looks down his nose as he grinds them into the mud.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 25/01/2022 13:42

Sadly there are still people defending him on Jeremy Vine (R2). On the grounds that "everybody" broke the rules, and we mustn't forget his success with the vax development and rollout. These people walk among us, let's not forget, and they have a vote.

dontcallmelen · 25/01/2022 14:59

@ICouldHaveCheckedFirst

Sadly there are still people defending him on Jeremy Vine (R2). On the grounds that "everybody" broke the rules, and we mustn't forget his success with the vax development and rollout. These people walk among us, let's not forget, and they have a vote.
Same on BBC radio London this morning tying themselves in knots trying defend them & using the soundbites of vaccine rollout the economy that is is recovery supposedly blah blah Tis very depressing.
borntobequiet · 25/01/2022 15:21

I think that every time they crow about the vaccine they should be reminded of the number of deaths.

borntobequiet · 25/01/2022 15:21

And I am truly grateful to have been vaccinated.

purplesequins · 25/01/2022 15:22

@borntobequiet

I think that every time they crow about the vaccine they should be reminded of the number of deaths.
but hitler built the autobahn...
Peregrina · 25/01/2022 16:14

And Mussolini made the trains run on time.

DGRossetti · 25/01/2022 16:21

@Peregrina

And Mussolini made the trains run on time.
Quite happy for Johnson to be compared to Hitler or Mussolini. Didn't end well for either of them.
DrBlackbird · 25/01/2022 19:21

Hi Sos

Seems BoJo has bought even more time to face the music

A terribly dark thought came unbidden into my head today. Putin invading Ukraine would save Johnson’s neck. Everything that’s gone on before would be ignored. And that would definitely buy him more time. Time to also sell off the NHS. In fact, there’s nothing that I now think these politburos wouldn't do to line their own pockets and not give a shiny sh*t about any average pleb.

On the plus side, think of how many’Churchillian’ speeches we can look forward to from BJ Hmm

TheABC · 25/01/2022 20:16

I don't think BoJo's party headaches even register on Putin's scale. If anything, he would treat 10 Downing Street as a TV reality show.

DuncinToffee · 25/01/2022 22:17

No prospect of an immediate breakthrough in the N.I. Protocol negotiations, Sefcovic tells member states

twitter.com/tconnellyrte/status/1486018661005545489?s=21

3/ The main complaint is that Truss is still talking about renegotiating the Protocol, and bringing up issues that had been dealt with long ago, acc to one source present

borntobequiet · 26/01/2022 07:56

No one could witness the bad faith and incompetence of our present Government and want them round the table when discussing or negotiating serious international issues such as the Ukraine situation.

DGRossetti · 26/01/2022 08:36

@borntobequiet

No one could witness the bad faith and incompetence of our present Government and want them round the table when discussing or negotiating serious international issues such as the Ukraine situation.
I wonder if there is a "shadow government" doing the real work while the clowns are on ? Because if I was in NATO, I wouldn't trust the UK to watch everyones coats while the grown ups deal with things. Let alone highly sensitive and classified information.
DuncinToffee · 26/01/2022 08:46

Truss is doing the media rounds defending Johnson, I am sure she has NATO on speed dial.

DGRossetti · 26/01/2022 09:05

@DuncinToffee

Truss is doing the media rounds defending Johnson, I am sure she has NATO on speed dial.
Means not too many questions about Brexit then.

Don't forget to keep pushing the fact she's a closet remainer, so is never going to solve the NI protocol issue.

It's almost sad now to contrast the joy on Brexiteer faces in 2016, and the creeping realisation that they've been had by remainers sneaking back in because they clung to Johnson rather than using vote to - as my DF says - pulito piazza

(Compared to some of the more loon things Brexiteers believe, that's an easy one to sell. Especially if you tack on the fact that it's all to do with a secret plot to vaccinate the UK ...)

DuncinToffee · 26/01/2022 09:16

Jack Monroe is putting together a consumer price index based on real life goods bought regularly by poor people - staples like pasta, instead of luxuries like champagne that are in the official basket of goods used to calculate inflation.

The Terry Pratchet estate have authorised the use of the title The Vimes Boots index.

DGRossetti · 26/01/2022 09:24

The Terry Pratchett estate have authorised the use of the title The Vimes Boots index.

God bless them.

BlackeyedSusan · 26/01/2022 09:34

Prices have gone up every time I do a shop. And not just a little bit either. Also finding Morrisons is removing the savers version of goods so prices going up by having to buy the big standard version or go without. We have been cutting back on "luxuries" like orange juice and masking up to venture into Aldi again. (Been avoiding as masks were rare and it's very crowded) we are lucky that I can absorb some price rises by living on savings spending my "pension" now

We ain't going to starve though we may be living off a lot of tinned carrots and spaghetti from the Brexit stash. Grin

It's all very slow "boiled frog " decline. The death rate is shocking. Hardly anyone is talking about it.

dontcallmelen · 26/01/2022 10:21

Seems to have been a big hike in food prices the last couple of weeks & not by a few pence either really noticeable increases.

DGRossetti · 26/01/2022 10:24

@dontcallmelen

Seems to have been a big hike in food prices the last couple of weeks & not by a few pence either really noticeable increases.
I can see why Rishi wants all the pain to hit at once though.
purplesequins · 26/01/2022 10:46

the elections in may - before or after first paycheck with higher reductions?

DGRossetti · 26/01/2022 11:03

@purplesequins

the elections in may - before or after first paycheck with higher reductions?
Not sure. But as we've seen with Partygate, a drip, drip, drip of sustained negative press is corrosive beyond belief. Even seems to mark teflon.

So a big bang of bad news and then plough on with the project seems more preferable.

"The Project" being project RIshi, of course.

I am amused an intrigued that the picture of the blond buffoon I have seen recently all show him masked. I wonder if that's to subliminally annoy the liberteers as we might call the rabid anti-lockdown nutters.