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Brexit mega thread part 5 : new year new PM? Partygate continues...

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Opal8 · 14/01/2022 09:02

Morning

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DGRossetti · 24/01/2022 11:19

@BringBackCoffeeCreams

I'm not even sure it's xenophobia. The rabid leavers I know don't particularly dislike foreigners, they dislike everyone often including their own families.
Well the "phobia" implies a degree of irrationality to start with. However en masse it's all just a bit low energy when it comes to thinking. The twist being it's precisely because Brexiteers have acted in such a rabid way - and signalled that to those that would exploit it - we will be seeing more immigration than ever in the coming years.

It's all a bit Wildean really, killing the thing you love.

DuncinToffee · 24/01/2022 11:34

news.sky.com/story/death-threats-are-a-way-of-life-gypsies-and-irish-travellers-and-muslims-least-liked-in-uk-survey-finds-12524098

Interesting about the upper and middle classes, MN being a good example.

DGRossetti · 24/01/2022 12:21

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/former-aussie-pm-blasts-demented-liz-truss-and-uks-delusions-of-grandeur-309220/

“Britain suffers delusions of grandeur and relevance deprivation.”

borntobequiet · 24/01/2022 13:07

Agree Liz Truss increasingly bonkers.

jgw1 · 24/01/2022 13:21

@borntobequiet

Agree Liz Truss increasingly bonkers.
It is quite good to stand out as looking bonkers in this government, she has done well.
ancientgran · 24/01/2022 13:34

@pointythings

It's not just brown faces either, is it? It's also 'not having to hear people speaking forrin on the street' and 'not having those forrin shops selling forrin muck'.

Xenophobia was always rampant in the UK, sadly.

I've said it before on MN but just seems appropriate here.

Morning after the Brexit vote we go shopping. DH is disabled so I left him in the coffee shop to go round the supermarket. Came back to get us a cuppa and a cake and woman in front of me in the queue turned round and said how wonderful it was that "we'd" won and we could get rid of all the foreigners. I pointed to my brown faced husband and said, "That's my husband." I honestly didn't know if I should laugh at her horror or cry at the nasty bigot and the proof that all the "it's not about race" really was the truth. I probably should have lost my temper but that didn't seem to occur to me in the moment.

Peregrina · 24/01/2022 13:39

ancientgran - your response was the best. I bet it shut her up.

I really look forward to all those visas we will have to give to the rest of the world. Which the Brexiters won't mind Grin because they have repeated told us that the EU was a white Christian club and it wasn't fair.

pointythings · 24/01/2022 13:45

ancientgran the day after the referendum, both my DDs were told by fellow students at school 'to go back to where you were born'. DD1 went straight at it and reported. DD2 looked at the student in question and said 'What, Cambridge?'

The school to be fair were brilliant - there were a lot of detentions and letters home handed out that day. plus a newsletter and statement on the website. Not that it would have made an iota of difference to the parents in question, of course.

ancientgran · 24/01/2022 13:48

Peregrina you are probably right. I'd like to think she turned away out of embarrassment but I think she probably decided I wasn't the sort of person she should be talking to.

I do think it is interesting to see the two different worlds, the one where I am a white woman out and about and doing my thing, and half of a couple who can get ignored in a shop or insulted by the bigots.

I agree about the visas, it will be fun.

Just as an added bit of amusement when I was about 19 I was working as a temp, one of the women in the office came back from lunch and was most upset. When asked what was wrong she explained there was a long queue at the post office and people in front of her were black, she felt it was so wrong as her father had fought in WWII to keep this country white. It went quiet as people looked a bit awkward but what the hell I was only going to be there for one more day so it didn't matter if I upset her so I said, "It was Hitler and the nazis who were the racists not us. Which army was your dad in British or German." I'm not joking, she was amazed and said she wasn't sure if her father realised, she'd have to ask him about it but she was sure he fought to keep Britain white.

Another moment where you just don't know if you should laugh or cry.

ancientgran · 24/01/2022 13:49

@pointythings

ancientgran the day after the referendum, both my DDs were told by fellow students at school 'to go back to where you were born'. DD1 went straight at it and reported. DD2 looked at the student in question and said 'What, Cambridge?'

The school to be fair were brilliant - there were a lot of detentions and letters home handed out that day. plus a newsletter and statement on the website. Not that it would have made an iota of difference to the parents in question, of course.

Your daughters were spot on. Good for them and I'm glad the school dealt with it.
countrygirl99 · 24/01/2022 14:16

The day after Brexit my DIL was told by a work colleague that she would have to go home now. That lunchtime she went ibto a shop to buy a sandwich and was talking to one of her colleagues. A complete stranger turned round and said "you'll have to fuck off home now you Polish bitch". Ignorant sod couldn't even tell the difference between foreign accents.

DGRossetti · 24/01/2022 14:24

@countrygirl99

The day after Brexit my DIL was told by a work colleague that she would have to go home now. That lunchtime she went ibto a shop to buy a sandwich and was talking to one of her colleagues. A complete stranger turned round and said "you'll have to fuck off home now you Polish bitch". Ignorant sod couldn't even tell the difference between foreign accents.
It's only after the referendum DS has been told to go home - based purely on his surname. The second he opens his mouth to tell them to fuck off, it's in a Brummie accent (like me he has the curse of a sponge ear).

It seems you can't cry if you are angry. Would anyone else agree ?

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 24/01/2022 15:24

Just had the radio on and the presenters were absolutely pissing themselves over 'partygate'. They were playing clips of Starmer going on about there being beer and sausage rolls but Johnson not realising he was at a party. Absolutely howling with laughter the presenters were. This was on a rural local radio station in deepest, darkest Sweden. Honestly Britain is a complete laughing stock on a par with Burlesconi and his bunga bunga parties.

DuncinToffee · 24/01/2022 15:44

Sebastian Payne
SCOOP: Lord Theodore Agnew, Treasury and Cabinet Office minister, has resigned over the government's "lamentable track record” on Covid fraud.
Agnew alleges Whitehall oversight has been "nothing less than woeful" and "desperately inadequate".

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 24/01/2022 15:49

And on the school run they're still discussing partygate. One thing that really struck me was when one of the speakers said 'The problem is that the English don't mind being pissed on, so long as it's from a great height.' Pretty spot on if you ask me.

DuncinToffee · 24/01/2022 15:54

Full story on the resignation
www.ft.com/content/805fa759-fabc-4d04-acdf-3616932d2164

Peregrina · 24/01/2022 17:11

I've been out. I read Resignation, and thought 'has he gone?' It turns out it's someone else. Still it's always good to see Tories disinterring their consciences.

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Opal8 · 24/01/2022 18:35

^ de pfeffle had a birthday party in the first lockdown.

My son turned 17 in the 1st lockdown. No party, no friends. 6 family members outside at staggered times.

As Per the rules. How they must have laughed at us plebs.

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FrankieStein403 · 24/01/2022 18:57

I guess we are to expect Brexiteers complaining about the introduction of the 'Dutch reach' into the Great British highway code... Alternative names anyone? Gammon grab perhaps.

Opal8 · 24/01/2022 19:11

The Royal reach?
The empire grab?
The xenophobic clutch?

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DGRossetti · 24/01/2022 19:41

If Sue Grays report is redacted, I wonder what the chances of a Ponting moment are ?

Sostenueto · 25/01/2022 11:11

Seems BoJo has bought even more time to face the music. Cressida Dick only now stepping in to investigate partygate and Sue is gonna have to delay publication of her report. Great timing. So it's all going under the carpet yet again.

DoctorTwo · 25/01/2022 11:36

is the PM really ill as he is spending a lot of time in hospital, or is he just doing recce missions for American insurance firms? Let's face it, they're who the current government want to give them to.

jgw1 · 25/01/2022 11:50

@Sostenueto

Seems BoJo has bought even more time to face the music. Cressida Dick only now stepping in to investigate partygate and Sue is gonna have to delay publication of her report. Great timing. So it's all going under the carpet yet again.
If the Tory party were serious about winning the next election they would get rid of Boris and his merry band of clowns. Each hour that they delay makes a Labour victory more likely.