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Brexit Megathread Part 3: COP26 and beyond. The Empire is no more.

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prettybird · 31/10/2021 17:49

The old thread is nearly full so as COP26 is in my home town, I thought I'd start the next one.

I'm not expecting anything wonderful from COP26. The selfishness that is Brexit will extend to the rich nations - or rather corporations, countries and cronies - not wanting to do anything that might actually cost them money or hurt their profits and having made their money on the back of the resources of the poorer nations (in some cases quite literally Sad), they'll expect them to pay the price for the riches of the West.

The deliberate mistranslation of France's letter to the EU will distract from real issues - but that's ok for BJ as he can then blame the perfidious French.

Nothing changes.

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DrBlackbird · 21/11/2021 22:54

[quote DuncinToffee]The NHS and Care Bill (NHSCB) will be back in the Commons tomorrow

westcountrybylines.co.uk/after-48-years-with-the-nhs-reader-begs-tobias-ellwood-dont-support-that-nhs-bill-please/[/quote]
Why is there no press coverage on this? More stealth privatisation of the NHS. Talking with someone I know today who was going on about how free at the point of use is a broken model and people must may a fee to use GPS etc.

The NHS is woefully under funded but is far more cost efficient than many other health care models. Bet so many businessmen are sniffing the potential of profits from healthcare. Lots of money to be made from people’s poor health now that every other bloody industry has been run into the ground.

DrBlackbird · 22/11/2021 08:16

Maybe Johnson refusing to wear a mask on a train isn’t a narcissistic-look-at-my-beaming-face-don’t-you-love-me moment but a Machiavellian plot to spread viruses, further overload the NHS and use that as a convenient excuse to push through privatisation?

DuncinToffee · 22/11/2021 09:07

GMB

Adil Ray - Why are we not telling people to wear a mask?

Paul Scully - We want people to use common sense

Adil Ray - Boris Johnson was pictured on a train maskless... so Boris Johnson has no common sense?

PS - That's what newspapers do

AR - So it's the newspapers fault

(From Haggis_UK)

DuncinToffee · 22/11/2021 09:12

Thread by Lewis Goodall on the care bill

twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1461119793340243968?s=21

Remember, as things stand the proposals would mean someone with a £1 million would retain the vast majority of their assets, someone with £100,000 would lose most of theirs.

It is being discussed on the radio this morning, lots of Tory back benchers unhappy with it.

Peregrina · 22/11/2021 09:25

lots of Tory back benchers unhappy with it.

Red Wall new Tories I suspect. Not those sitting in safe seats in the South East with million £ property prices.

DuncinToffee · 22/11/2021 09:27

Very likely, I was only half listening so don't know if they mentioned who these unhappy Tories are.

DuncinToffee · 22/11/2021 09:32

Christian Wakeford (Bury South) and Robert Buckland are mentioned in the article linked by DrBlackbird

borntobequiet · 22/11/2021 09:49

I’ve emailed my (Tory, female) MP again, for what it’s worth.
She did abstain on the Paterson vote, which astonished me.

Peregrina · 22/11/2021 10:01

She did abstain on the Paterson vote, which astonished me.

Ah but was it a matter of principle, or was it because she fears for her seat? Last year they had postbags full of people complaining about Cummings' eyesight jaunt, which they dutifully had to defend. Then Cummings got the boot. Faced with the prospect of having to defend Paterson, and then find that he gets the boot too, what would a Tory of few principles do?

borntobequiet · 22/11/2021 10:15

Oh it was because she was worried about her seat for sure. Shes a woman of zero principles, going by correspondence dating back many years now.

FatCatThinCat · 22/11/2021 11:58

[quote Chersfrozenface]Well, I never.
Remember that bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59368707[/quote]
How much tax payers cash has been wasted on this so far?

HannibalHayeski · 22/11/2021 15:47

And yet people were claiming they voted for him because he was so eloquent...

DuncinToffee · 22/11/2021 16:12

It's working as a distraction, lots of talk about Peppa Pig but not a lot about the Social Care bill.

But maybe he is gone too far this time.

Laura K's latest tweet
Senior Downing St source says “there is a lot of concern inside the building about the PM....It’s just not working. Cabinet needs to wake up and demand serious changes otherwise it’ll keep getting worse. If they don’t insist, he just won’t do anything about it."

borntobequiet · 22/11/2021 17:19

Sometimes I wonder if BJ is actually an escaped character from an unpublished PG Wodehouse novel. He needs Jeeves to lock him in a room and feed him beef tea and soothing words until he regains his wits.

HannibalHayeski · 22/11/2021 17:25

Breshit still going so well.

Highland hotels forced to shut due to lack of staff post-Brexit

HannibalHayeski · 22/11/2021 18:02

And here's a little "world beating" gem.

"Chances that a single Nobel or Turing laureate would move to the UK to work are zero for the next decade or so,” says [Manchester Nobel laureate] Andre Geim.... “The scheme itself is a joke – it cannot be discussed seriously,” he says."

DuncinToffee · 22/11/2021 19:33

Ouch

Chances that a single Nobel or Turing laureate would move to the UK to work are zero for the next decade or so,” says Andre Geim at the University of Manchester, UK. Geim won a Nobel prize in 2010 for his work on graphene.

www.newscientist.com/article/2298455-uk-visa-scheme-for-prize-winning-scientists-receives-no-applications

DuncinToffee · 22/11/2021 19:35

Oops sorry Hannibal, you already posted this

TheABC · 22/11/2021 19:54

It did look like Johnson was unravelling before our eyes with that Peppa Pig moment. I don't think it is a distraction from the Social Care Bill as it sounds like the Cabinet are struggling to get him to pay attention. Which is a running theme (cf. Brexit details).

HannibalHayeski · 22/11/2021 20:18

To paraphrase something I saw on twitter;

If you think that was bad, you should have seen the speech he gave about the CBI at Peppa Pig World...

HannibalHayeski · 22/11/2021 20:36

Mrs Nigel Farage
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Peppa Pig has issued a statement to say that she and Boris Johnson most definitely did not have a ‘thing’. That was her Uncle Hamish and it wasn’t Johnson anyway but David Cameron.

HannibalHayeski · 22/11/2021 20:58

More giggles...

Brexit Megathread Part 3: COP26 and beyond. The Empire is no more.
borntobequiet · 22/11/2021 21:14

@HannibalHayeski

More giggles...
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DuncinToffee · 22/11/2021 22:34

Lewis Goodall:

NEW: Govt wins vote on social care amendment to Care Act 2014 (removing means test contributions from the cap)

AYES: 272
NOES: 246

Maj: 26

So, a Tory rebellion. But bill goes to the House of Lords where it’ll almost certainly be amended.