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Brexit Megathread Part 3: COP26 and beyond. The Empire is no more.

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prettybird · 31/10/2021 17:49

The old thread is nearly full so as COP26 is in my home town, I thought I'd start the next one.

I'm not expecting anything wonderful from COP26. The selfishness that is Brexit will extend to the rich nations - or rather corporations, countries and cronies - not wanting to do anything that might actually cost them money or hurt their profits and having made their money on the back of the resources of the poorer nations (in some cases quite literally Sad), they'll expect them to pay the price for the riches of the West.

The deliberate mistranslation of France's letter to the EU will distract from real issues - but that's ok for BJ as he can then blame the perfidious French.

Nothing changes.

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jgw1 · 20/11/2021 21:06

@HannibalHayeski

Oh, I hope this gets some coverage...
But Jeremy Corbyn...
HannibalHayeski · 20/11/2021 21:27

Yeah, it was all his fault...

DuncinToffee · 21/11/2021 00:05

Another warning from the USA

www.murphy.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/northern_ireland_letter.pdf

Piggywaspushed · 21/11/2021 08:28

[quote AuldAlliance]Hadn't realised quite what a nasty piece of work Dorries is:
twitter.com/docrussjackson/status/1461666112647663616[/quote]
Sadly, she is my MP . We realise it here all the time.

borntobequiet · 21/11/2021 08:35

From the letter linked to by Dunkin above:

We also wish to communicate the strong interest from Congress in ensuring that the Good Friday Agreement is protected in any future arrangements

The Government has been trying to mislead people into thinking their reluctance to uphold the Protocol is because it damages the GFA. They won’t be able to keep pushing this fiction if the US. Congress is agreeing with the EU and saying the exact opposite.

DGRossetti · 21/11/2021 09:59

Worth reflecting that the sheer arrogance of Brexiteers now almost compels them to flick the V to Uncle Sam.

The UK use to be part of the solution to the US managing the EU. Now it's part of the problem.

Piggywaspushed · 21/11/2021 10:37

Javid on Marr just a short while ago literally claiming to have discovered something that was known about, and reported on (and not tackled) aaaages ago:

www.mobihealthnews.com/news/fda-warns-pulse-oximeters-less-accurate-people-darker-skin

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58032842#:~:text=Coronavirus-,Covid%3A%20Pulse%20oxygen%20monitors%20work%20less,on%20darker%20skin%2C%20experts%20say&text=A%20device%20designed%20to%20spot,darker%20skin%2C%20experts%20are%20warning.

Is this some form of dead cat on table thing?

DrBlackbird · 21/11/2021 10:52

Just reading the Sunday Telegraph. Lovely long article on how putting the Standards body on a statutory basis would be anti-parliamentary and therefore… wait for it… anti-democratic because it weakens the power of voters.

And some interesting logic about how the whole, vast sphere of what people think and feel about so many difficult questions cannot be successfully regulated and administered by judges and bureaucrats. Since it cannot , it is a mistake to try

Who knew that Ministers raking in thousands working for private organisations that ipso facto must be benefiting from them being MPs raised any emotion in the electorate other than disgust? No, there’s a vast range of emotions out there.

The author of this illuminating article? None other than Charles Moore. Of course he’s a beacon of impeachable objectivity and independence and we must obviously listen to his views.

So then according to his reasoning, politicians are perfectly within their right to allocate contracts to firms that employ them as long as the MPs, the press pub talk, water cooler chat and social media all agree that it’s legit.

Yep, great way to run a country.

FFS he ends by invoking comparison to Iran in allowing unelected independent assessors to uphold public standards. And who reads this dribble and might believe it? Voters…

DGRossetti · 21/11/2021 10:53

@Piggywaspushed

Javid on Marr just a short while ago literally claiming to have discovered something that was known about, and reported on (and not tackled) aaaages ago:

www.mobihealthnews.com/news/fda-warns-pulse-oximeters-less-accurate-people-darker-skin

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58032842#:~:text=Coronavirus-,Covid%3A%20Pulse%20oxygen%20monitors%20work%20less,on%20darker%20skin%2C%20experts%20say&text=A%20device%20designed%20to%20spot,darker%20skin%2C%20experts%20are%20warning.

Is this some form of dead cat on table thing?

Is that before or after they tackle the bias in image recognition systems ?
Piggywaspushed · 21/11/2021 10:54

Not sure they plan to tackle anything really...

DGRossetti · 21/11/2021 11:09

www.economist.com/britain/2021/11/18/britains-government-scales-back-plans-to-transform-the-railways

And reveals that “levelling up” means thinking small

DuncinToffee · 21/11/2021 11:24

JohnsonOut is trending on twitter, again

DuncinToffee · 21/11/2021 11:39

Could be interesting

A pro-EU campaign is pouring cash into campaign to unseat 44 high-profile 'Blue Wall' Tory MPs - including Jacob Rees-Mogg and Dominic Raab

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/full-list-44-tory-mps-25497020

DuncinToffee · 21/11/2021 11:51

The NHS and Care Bill (NHSCB) will be back in the Commons tomorrow

westcountrybylines.co.uk/after-48-years-with-the-nhs-reader-begs-tobias-ellwood-dont-support-that-nhs-bill-please/

dontcallmelen · 21/11/2021 16:39

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Chersfrozenface · 21/11/2021 19:20

Well, I never.
Remember that bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59368707

mathanxiety · 21/11/2021 19:40

Mind boggling.

mathanxiety · 21/11/2021 19:42

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/21/conservative-party-divided-unintended-consequence-brexit

An interesting thought on the Red Wall.
Will it turn out to be a Trojan Horse story?

mathanxiety · 21/11/2021 20:40

I think BJ’s marital history and record of affairs perhaps leads people to read this less charitably than we might for others though . . .

The only person whose opinion on this matters is the wife pregnant with her second child.

mathanxiety · 21/11/2021 20:41

I wonder do they have a doghouse out the back that would fit Boris?

Peregrina · 21/11/2021 20:54

Plans for some kind of link between Northern Ireland and Scotland stretch back as far as the 1890s.

So writes the BBC, with a typical lack of attention to detail. Northern Ireland did not exist then. If they meant the north of the island of Ireland then say so.

However, it all helps to cement the idea in the Brexiters minds that the UK as it is now has been fixed like this for centuries, which will stop those pesky Scots from seeking independence, or the Irish from re-uniting.

HarrietPierce · 21/11/2021 21:03

Chris Grey latest :

chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2021/11/a-pause-to-reflect.html?m=1

borntobequiet · 21/11/2021 21:36

[quote Chersfrozenface]Well, I never.
Remember that bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59368707[/quote]
Seriously, all it needed was thirty seconds’ thought and the knowledge that the DUP considered it a good idea to dismiss it entirely.

Peregrina · 21/11/2021 22:02

But you have to remember that the current Government have the most dismal understanding of geography. They probably think that Northern Ireland is as far from Scotland as the Isle of Wight is to the south coast of England.

But Australia and New Zealand are only about a thousand miles away, if that.