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Brexit Megathread Part 3: COP26 and beyond. The Empire is no more.

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prettybird · 31/10/2021 17:49

The old thread is nearly full so as COP26 is in my home town, I thought I'd start the next one.

I'm not expecting anything wonderful from COP26. The selfishness that is Brexit will extend to the rich nations - or rather corporations, countries and cronies - not wanting to do anything that might actually cost them money or hurt their profits and having made their money on the back of the resources of the poorer nations (in some cases quite literally Sad), they'll expect them to pay the price for the riches of the West.

The deliberate mistranslation of France's letter to the EU will distract from real issues - but that's ok for BJ as he can then blame the perfidious French.

Nothing changes.

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jgw1 · 12/11/2021 14:08

[quote DuncinToffee]9, yes nine, applications

bylinetimes.com/2021/11/11/only-nine-applications-for-uk-fuel-tanker-hgv-scheme/[/quote]
The article seems to be confused.

The scheme has been successful. The government are able to say that they have a scheme and that it is the nasty foreigners fault for not coming to work in the UK.

jgw1 · 12/11/2021 14:10

[quote purplesequins]in our dear friend's blog

mobile.twitter.com/Joe_Mayes/status/1459138763246952448[/quote]
Why would anyone expect Boris Johnson to know what the customs union was.
He was probably on holiday when it was being discussed.

DuncinToffee · 12/11/2021 14:17

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DuncinToffee · 12/11/2021 14:18

Oops wrong thread, ignore Blush

countrygirl99 · 12/11/2021 14:33

@prettybird

The UK Government that came into power in 2010 decided that "trickle down" economics was the best way to recover from the crisis HmmConfused
Trickle being the best description. All dammed up at the top and just a trickle comes down.
jgw1 · 12/11/2021 15:03

Trickle being the best description. All dammed up at the top and just a trickle comes down.

There is a dam at the top, that explains the flooding, so its not their fault, that someone put a dam there, and pumped money from below into it.

Peregrina · 12/11/2021 17:05

All dammed up at the top and just a trickle comes down

And of course, if the dam bursts then it's the people below who get drowned. Not those at the top on higher ground.

Peregrina · 12/11/2021 17:11

Why would anyone expect Boris Johnson to know what the customs union was.

Who can forget his and Govey's faces when Leave won? Gobsmacked doesn't do it justice.

Lonelycrab · 12/11/2021 17:25

Who can forget his and Govey's faces when Leave won? Gobsmacked doesn't do it justice

Not forgetting Little Lord Fauntleroy David Cameron, whistling to himself as he quit the next day the spineless twat.

DGRossetti · 12/11/2021 17:31

It's starting to look inevitable we'll trigger Article 16.

Pretty certain - from Sun Tzu, through Marcus Aurelius and Napoleon - the general view on conflict is you never act until you know what your enemy will do.

Lonelycrab · 12/11/2021 17:48

Chris Grey calls it the calm before the storm. As ever a pretty spot on summary. chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2021/11/welcome-to-brexit-20.html
He finishes with:
To put it another way, for all the pain it would cause all of us, a short, sharp and hard lesson in realpolitik might be better for Britain in the long run than an endless game of Tom Tiddler’s ground with the EU

And I’m inclined to agree with him.

HannibalHayeski · 12/11/2021 20:34

Interesting, although to be taken with a Siberian salt mine (11% of people who voted remain would now vote to leave? Really?)

Brexit Megathread Part 3: COP26 and beyond. The Empire is no more.
HannibalHayeski · 12/11/2021 20:34

And support for another referendum...

Brexit Megathread Part 3: COP26 and beyond. The Empire is no more.
purplesequins · 12/11/2021 20:48

@HannibalHayeski

Interesting, although to be taken with a Siberian salt mine (11% of people who voted remain would now vote to leave? Really?)
is it the same as '80% voted for a party with brexit in the manifesto'?
DrBlackbird · 12/11/2021 22:15

So… again I’m astonished at my naivety/foolishness. When I heard that Geoffrey Cox was working on a corruption case in the BVI, somehow I assumed he was investigating corruption. A Tory MP investigating corruption… what was I thinking of!? Shock Of course Cox was actually defending Fahie, the person accused of corruption.

Peregrina · 12/11/2021 22:15

I like what Chris Grey has to say, but I do week if this week's posting has rather got eclipsed by Events dear boy, events.

Namely, it should all have been about Article 16 when COP26 closed, but instead the corruption allegations still rumble on, with a rich seam being mined.

The Guardian website heads up with two more corruption leads - Zak Goldsmith's family accused of tax evasion by the Spanish Authorities, then the Tory Treasurer to make millions from the LV= takeover, plus Cox rumbling on .....

But here a Brexit bonus for some people, but not ones which the Brexiters will welcome! Not that the Home Office is going to do the honourable thing and allow the people to settle here. One thing the last year should have shown us is that the economy needs young able bodied people which most of the refugees are.

jgw1 · 12/11/2021 22:34

But here a Brexit bonus for some people, but not ones which the Brexiters will welcome! Not that the Home Office is going to do the honourable thing and allow the people to settle here. One thing the last year should have shown us is that the economy needs young able bodied people which most of the refugees are.

More project fear.
We all know that Brexit means Brexit, it is oven ready, we have taken back control of our borders, so it must be the French putting them into boats and towing them across.

Peregrina · 12/11/2021 22:35

Of course Cox was actually defending Fahie, the person accused of corruption.

And wasn't it the British Government which was taking action against Fahie? So he was acting directly against the Government of which he had been part until recently. It almost seems treasonable.

Peregrina · 13/11/2021 09:57

BTEC funding withdrawal.

Although nothing directly to do with Brexit, this is the sort of thing which shows just how out of touch the current Government is. Levelling up, my eye, when you want to stop a qualification which in many cases is more suitable than A levels will ever be.

LouiseCollins28 · 13/11/2021 10:49

@Peregrina

BTEC funding withdrawal.

Although nothing directly to do with Brexit, this is the sort of thing which shows just how out of touch the current Government is. Levelling up, my eye, when you want to stop a qualification which in many cases is more suitable than A levels will ever be.

"vice chancellors say"...mmmmm I wonder who's interests they might be speaking, here's a clue, it's not the student's
HarrietPierce · 13/11/2021 11:06

Reported in that right wing rag the Daily Express :

Brexit poll: Boris dealt huge blow as more than HALF of UK adults want to REJOIN EU
BREXIT BRITAIN and Boris Johnson have been dealt a crushing blow after a bombshell poll revealed more than half of UK adults would vote to rejoin the European Union if another referendum was to take place.
By PAUL WITHERS

HannibalHayeski · 13/11/2021 13:42

@Peregrina

BTEC funding withdrawal.

Although nothing directly to do with Brexit, this is the sort of thing which shows just how out of touch the current Government is. Levelling up, my eye, when you want to stop a qualification which in many cases is more suitable than A levels will ever be.

Combine that with IR35 and you're decimating many of the skilled sectors of the economy, just when we're short of qualified engineers, plumbers, electricians etc., and just as we've cut off our "ready qualified" supply lines.

Joined up thinking seems to be becoming more and more of a problem in this government. Just what, exactly, do they teach them at Eton...

HannibalHayeski · 13/11/2021 13:59

Do Geoffrey Cox claimed for 7 round trips, but only voted in person 3 times...

HannibalHayeski · 13/11/2021 14:00

*So

Peregrina · 13/11/2021 14:01

Just what, exactly, do they teach them at Eton...

Good question. How to be effortlessly arrogant.

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