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Brexit Megathread - Part 2 because it's not over by a long shot

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vera99 · 07/10/2021 21:36

Well getting to a 1000 posts didn't take too long so here we are.... everybody welcome!

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jgw1 · 11/10/2021 14:37

@julieca

Yes its good news that we cant buy some foods.
Sure is, why would anyone want to buy lettuce?
julieca · 11/10/2021 14:54

I was told I was entitled for wanting to buy a whole chicken. And that I was being ridiculous to think bread was an essential item.

vera99 · 11/10/2021 15:08

A good infomatic about the pig cull - turns out it will be cheaper for UK supermarkets to get cheaper pork from the EU which is coming over with very little border controls because we don't have the staff to implement them and would cause greater food shortages on the shelves.

"Let them eat sovereignity"

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vera99 · 11/10/2021 15:25

I take some comfort that Johnson like Blair will never be able to mingle freely in the world but will have to live inside their bulletproof walls and convoys as they will feel the wrath of those that they affected. No more cheery waves to Boris on his bike and a stop for selfies. I'm sure Gordon Brown doesn't have that problem.

If I was him I would always worry what someone might have put in my soup in the kitchen. Would put me right off my meal for sure. Never annoy a waiter or complain about a meal whilst you're eating oh and don't be a cunt.

Am in a nasty mood today ...

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DGRossetti · 11/10/2021 15:46

@julieca

I was told I was entitled for wanting to buy a whole chicken. And that I was being ridiculous to think bread was an essential item.
Surely you could eat cake ?
julieca · 11/10/2021 15:50

Of course!

wewereliars · 11/10/2021 15:57

I think Johnson will sod off to the US after he's wrecked the UK, or maybe Russia.

ReturntoSpamfritters · 11/10/2021 16:02

@wewereliars

I think Johnson will sod off to the US after he's wrecked the UK, or maybe Russia.
The Cayman Islands, shurely? I bet there's a few billion in an account there with his name on it. Like 37 billion.
DuncinToffee · 11/10/2021 16:03

Good article by Otto English

bylinetimes.com/2021/10/11/luftwaffle-fantasy-nostalgia-betrays-the-past-and-the-present/

Peregrina · 11/10/2021 16:03

Definitely agree that Johnson will clear off to the USA. I wonder how he is going to get on living with two small children? I expect it will cramp his style badly.

vera99 · 11/10/2021 16:05

US most probably and be a big hit on the talk show circuit as eccentric, a bit of a lad ex PM. Carrie will be firmly in the rearview mirror by then traded up/down probably for a Texan cheerleader. Cameron's corrupt Greensill stuff seems to be almost forgotten in this unfolding current car crash.

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vera99 · 11/10/2021 16:06

He will be the star turn at billionaire bashes and get enough crumbs off appearances, writing etc to get past £10 million without a blink I would have thought.

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Peregrina · 11/10/2021 16:25

luftwaffle - I like it.

As for Carrie vs. de Pfeffel - I think she might give him the boot when he loses his powerful position.

vera99 · 11/10/2021 16:42

My grandfather on my mother's side was gassed at the Somme and was a self-employed carpenter that had frequent blackouts and couldn't work during much of the Depression. My mum recalled the ministry of works and pensions coming to inspect their home and cupboards to see if they had anything they could sell before getting any assistance. He never joined the British Legion, never talked about the war or ever went to any commemorations. My father joined up in the Royal Signals and saw service in South Africa, Libya, Egypt, Italy and Germany admittedly in a support role, not in the front line but saw at first hand a Europe in ruins.

He died in 1996 but thought that the European Union was a marvellous thing and something to be celebrated and supported. He was no plastic patriot but a great supporter of the post-War Labour government that gave birth to the NHS and the welfare state. He left me with a great knowledge of history through our numerous warm and passionate talks and the innumerable books he read on the war and which I did too. At 12 I would be reading the autobiography of Albert Speer and debating whether he should have been hung at Nuremberg... no Playstation for me !

I have no doubt he would be despairing at the current climate and the increasing levels of plastic patriotism and nationalism. It never leads anywhere good and would have the utmost contempt for the calibre, moral fibre and work ethic of our so-called PM and his and of corrupt cabal heartless, opportunistic spivs.

I find this mindless wartime fetishism shorn of context morally repugnant.

These are dangerous times for sure.

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wewereliars · 11/10/2021 17:06

That's one of the many many things that is so repugnant about this shower trying to drape themselves in the flag of the second world war.

People who actually fought in the war have to be at least in their mid 90s by now, and you have contless twats in their 50s and 60s acting like they were there.

All the people like your grandfather Vera, who lived through the horror of where this poison can lead, whenever I have heard them speak, have been very positive about what the EU is and has stood for.

I have no doubt Winston Churchill, who Johnson tries so often to bathe in the refected glory of, would be disgusted by the lot of them.

This government is a disgrace and insult to your grandfather's generation to whom we owe so much.

vera99 · 11/10/2021 17:07

Who's to blame - nothing to do with Brexit... another great video by Byline News.

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vera99 · 11/10/2021 17:23

Up until the 1970s, most Mp's has some form of wartime service and that was across both sides of the House. Officers and privates had shared a common purpose and battle and a just cause. Then it was the rise of PPE degrees, Oxbirdgeistas and lawyers folk with very little real-world experience and the rise of financialisation of our almost post-industrial capitalist state. And here we are ... the worst possible leasers at the worst possible time.

As Lenin said "What is to be done ?"

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vera99 · 11/10/2021 17:27

EUROPE UNITE !

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Peregrina · 11/10/2021 17:40

Depressing - petrol and food shortages but it's nothing to do with Brexit. But at least some are blaming de Pfeffel.

vera99 · 11/10/2021 18:19

Like his alter-ego, the arch narcissist Trump Johnson's is the very epitome of the Hollow Man just slightly more intelligent and slightly less feral. Whatever, a callous, broken soul drunk on his own wit and ambition, the sort of man in other contexts seems the very pinnacle of success and then one day if he ever gains self-realisation goes and hangs himself if we are lucky if we are not then he starts a war.

We know from Jennifer Arcuri that he is not well hung so I fear the worse ...

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HannibalHayeski · 11/10/2021 18:21

Well, if they're reading the Daily Heil and watching the BBC, then it's obviously nothing to do with Brexshit...

AuldAlliance · 11/10/2021 19:14

twitter.com/secrettory12/status/1447302856940347399?s=20

n.b. Secret Tory is the new nom de plume of Michael Govern Ready, previously Mark Ne François Pas.
Like jgw1's posts, his tweets require a functioning satire detector.

vera99 · 11/10/2021 19:19

@auldalliance I've just followed him yesterday I'm deep in the Twitter hole with a #FBPE account - there's a danger of getting too far in. PM me your handle if you have one and I'll follow back ...

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vera99 · 11/10/2021 19:20

How it works:

-Goldsmith loses Commons seat
-Johnson makes him a Lord
-Goldsmith owns villa Marbella
-Johnson: thanks very much

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DGRossetti · 11/10/2021 19:29

What happened between 5:30 and 6:00 pm today ?

5:30 BBC-R4 PM had a summary of the news leading with Irelands accusations that the UK wasn't negotiating seriously (followed by some drivel from IDS).

6:00 - not a squeak in any of the headlines, leading with CO2 story. Same for BBC News website.

Or is it just me ?