Brexit Megathread - Part 1 because it's not over by a long shot

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Started a new thread for all things Brexity as the last generic dumping ground reached its 1000 post limit. As this developing shitshow unfolds it's going to be important to share and unload. Clav of course will punt a contrarian view along with unrepentant 'taking back control' so-called Brexiteers. I look forward to seeing the benefits.

Place catting.

I noticed this article on the Irish Times website....

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/european-parliament-approves-over-1bn-in-brexit-subsidies-for-ireland-1.4675158

Pesky EU providing support to those countries and industries most affected by Brexit

Iirc, the EU also helped with the establishment of the new routes between Ireland and France, using the mega ferries, to bypass the UK land bridge this reducing the UK's ability to use it as leverage

@Words - love the cookbooks behind your cat (who is lovely too!)

@mathanxiety - don't tell me, @C&Pinova just C&Ped a few links and extracts from articles that "prove" that other countries or industries are having a few problems, usually unrelated to Brexit, without any analysis and then said that he or she was going out? And/or evidence of a tiny trade deal that a) is not even signed yet b) in no way compensates for business lost with the EU, nor the cost of the red tape involved in the business that remains and c) actually opens up the UK to more imports than it would gain in exports

Wouldn't know as I don't read his or her posts, I just wait for the comments pointing out how irrelevant and missing the point they are

Thanks PrettyBird

I'm packing those and the rest of the cookery library in the trunk to bring to the Refugee Camp. As long as Norma and her siblings can come too, of course.

Hopefully DGR will be making the pasta...

I can make good sourdough croissants - although I'll need to transfer to a Scottish supplier for my flour, as I use Wessex Mill at the moment.

My sourdough bread is good too

It would be good to bring the Westminstenders title back but at the same time by labelling this Brexit Megathread part 1 we can keep a tally of how many there are. Will we in five years time have Brexit Megathread part 300, where we celebrate joining the Customs Union, or Irish Unification, or Scottish Independence, or yet another 5 years of Tory rule (perish the thought!).

How about combining the two in the next thread title : eg Westministenders Brexit Is Done Mega Thread 2 [insert relevant topic at the time] ....and so on.

I wasn't aware of the Westministenders thread, depending on how popular this sub forum will become then there's plenty of scope for multiple threads on particular topics., I just saw this as an opportunity to have a single thread where breaking Brexit news could be dumped and discussed. It was on the back of a 1000 poster that blew up over the food shortages on the general forum that shows there is an appetite for a wider audience to engage rather than just the usual suspects as welcome as they are.

I guess when a thread trends then lots more folk get a signal to engage. There seems dispiritingly be so many WTAF events occurring on a daily basis.

Thanks for the clarification. I'm not remotely bothered what it's called "Brexit Megathread" "Westministenders" TBH. Good to see the threads are keeping going, titled as whatever. I'd be tempted with a numbered sequence too, something like,

"Now 25 - That's What I Call Brexit"

But MN might get sued

This ends when HMG sense about having a grown-up realistic dialogue and agreement with the biggest trading bloc on our doorstep and cuts the exceptionalist UK rhetoric rubbish. I see absolutely no signs of this and certainly not with Johnson and his second rate cronies in power. It's going to get worse before it gets better sadly we could be on thread umpteen maxty before we can forget this and 'move on'. Brexit is far from 'done or over as much as this cabal wished it were. Indeed the pain has only just begun and Johnson has nowhere left to hide anymore .....

British exceptionalism alright.

No food, polluted water, no petrol. A government about to take £20 a week of the very poorest while inflation is at 4% and likely to remain on an unpward trajectory, fuelled by price rises across the board and a NI rise.

Rule Britannia, peerless indeed.

On the way back from Southend to Welling, today saw 2 BP garages closed. Am filling up tomorrow just in case. The just in time economy is so carefully balanced that all it takes is for someone to say 'they were queuing round the block to get into my local Esso!' on Facebook to set of a chain reaction that causes a run on the pumps.

I'm worried about fuel - I have to take my son to uni on Saturday and I am very very low after taking DD2 to Plymouth last week. I just don't understand the British people - how much worse does it have to get before they say 'enough'?

We are very lucky that people aren't panic buying food, otherwise the supermarket shelves would go from patchy to empty very quickly with a broken "just in time" system.

I feel very sorry for anyone who is already struggling, the only thing we seem to be world beating in at the moment is food banks and it is only going to get worse with fuel costs set to sky rocket and food prices creeping up.

@wewereliars

British exceptionalism alright.

No food, polluted water, no petrol. A government about to take £20 a week of the very poorest while inflation is at 4% and likely to remain on an unpward trajectory, fuelled by price rises across the board and a NI rise.

Rule Britannia, peerless indeed.

But that's ok - it's only "2" hours extra work and/or those in receipt of UC can get better paid work

And the lights won't go off even if people can't afford actually to put the heating on

An absolute shitshow, with no end in sight.

No doubt the very well paid fuel drivers (they are the king of the crop) will want a handsome pay rise to be kept sweet and supplies running to the pumps. The tories have unleashed an inflationary pay spiral onto a faltering post-covid economy. They certainly didn't plan for that or indeed plan for anything.

"It now takes 59 steps to import a petunia from the Netherlands. How post-Brexit bureaucracy is driving up the cost of UK gardening."

www.ft.com/content/aa999865-fcbb-46f4-8b1a-743ece375d2e

Oh and one for opera-loving @Clavinova ....

theartsdesk.com/opera/classical-musicians-life-after-brexit-4-singers-speak-out

Re foodbanks from another forum I follow..

"There's several things happening with food banks and similar projects at the moment:

During the pandemic, the Fareshare food redistributer network initially provided small projects with free food (and also would deliver only ambient food if that was what a group wanted) , then they started charging a fee. Recently, in our area at least, they have stopped providing ambient food to organisations that can't also take refrigerated and frozen food.

Retailers and restaurants are having supply issues, so have less surplus to donate, and are less willing to make charitable donations.

More people going back into workplace after furlough/unemployment/wfh, and jobseeking requirements going back to normal, plus more leisure activities opening up and socialising going on, so fewer volunteers.

People feeling the pinch of rising prices, increasing poverty, and worry about supply issues, so fewer donations coming in from individuals.

Its certainly affecting our mutual aid group and other projects I know about."

I just don't understand the British people - how much worse does it have to get before they say 'enough'?

I think it takes courage for a person to admit that they were taken for a fool. It will be more likely that suddenly no one will admit to voting for Brexit. It will be like no one admitted to voting for Thatcher but someone must have done because she won three elections. A social group that I belong to has recently restarted meeting in person, post Covid, and the known Brexiter there was rather silent.

Where incidentally is Farage these days? He was last heard jumping on the bandwagon of praising Emma Raducanu, to be swiftly reminded what he had previously said about Romanian immigrants.

An unrepentant Farage is on GB News talking pints with all and sundry that and doing 'Cameo' greeting videos for 75 quid a pop.

My Brexit friend has gone very very quiet on Facebook. She used to post every couple of weeks in praise of Brexit (but even back in the day would delete the posts when challenged about them). Now she doesn't even bother.

Johnson literally quoted Kermit in a UN speech are we all in some warped nightmare dream.

Not just Kermit but Miss Piggy too

How crass can you get

To a deafening silence with the Miss Piggy a doubling down of even frostier silence. " I want the world to grow up, so here's a quote from Kermit the Frog".

You just know he wrote those lines personally no speechwriter worth their salt would ever dream of such nonsense. Maybe the cocaine rumours are true...