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Brexit Megathread - Part 1 because it's not over by a long shot

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vera99 · 22/09/2021 19:41

Started a new thread for all things Brexity as the last generic dumping ground reached its 1000 post limit. As this developing shitshow unfolds it's going to be important to share and unload. Clav of course will punt a contrarian view along with unrepentant 'taking back control' so-called Brexiteers. I look forward to seeing the benefits.

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pointythings · 22/09/2021 21:28

Placemarking with a couple of authentic British moggies. But they are both called after types of pasta for a touch of the forrin. Grin

Brexit Megathread - Part 1 because it's not over by a long shot
Brexit Megathread - Part 1 because it's not over by a long shot
AuldAlliance · 22/09/2021 21:29

Ooh, Scottish water...
My hair was so soft and beautifully curly when I spent a week in Edinburgh. It's not recovered yet from the shock of returning here.

Bottled water is one of those items that seem like a luxury, and one the Brexiteers like to hold up as an example of how spoilt people are and how beneficial it would be to return to WW2 rationing.
In a country where the rules on effluent discharge have just been relaxed, that may be a bit short-sighted of them.

AuldAlliance · 22/09/2021 21:35

I have no cat pics, but here is a soothing photo from a maligned neighbouring land
(I resisted the temptation to add the caption, "sayez vos prayers, Borreess!")

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Blindleadingtheblind · 22/09/2021 21:37

Yup, saw loads of effluent running up the river the other day when the tide was coming in. Fecking minging.

prettybird · 22/09/2021 21:42

Our two boys are called Frasier and Niles. Is that sufficiently American to counter their eliteness? Wink

But there again, Frasier and Niles were snobs who loved all things English and European especially French wine Grin

vera99 · 22/09/2021 22:00

Tesco sounding the alarm for Christmas panic buying

He warned ITV News: 'Our concern is that the pictures of empty shelves will get ten times worse by Christmas and then we’ll get panic-buying.'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10017763/Tesco-warns-Government-UK-wide-lorry-driver-shortage-lead-Christmas-panic-buying.html

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HannibalHayeski · 22/09/2021 22:07

Speaking of Truss' C&P deals - Apparently some of them are so cut and pasted that the text includes references to the EU, and so is causing serious problems because of this.

You couldn't make it up...

DGRossetti · 22/09/2021 22:29

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vera99 · 22/09/2021 22:35

Brexiteers promised ...

Cheaper food
Cheaper energy
Less red tape
Control of our borders
Better for farmers
Better for fishermen
A free trade deal with the USA
A better deal with the EU
No border in the Irish Sea
£350 million a week to the NHS

Anything else?

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prettybird · 22/09/2021 22:41

T'other thing about all these C&P wonderful "new" deals is that she the Government doesn't seem to realise that there are "most favoured nation" clauses in those trade deals between other countries and the EU that she has C&Ped tried to replicate - so even if highly unlikely she had managed to get a better deal, then the EU would automatically benefit from it Confused

prettybird · 22/09/2021 22:44

@vera99 You missed out:

Better Water Quality
Cheaper (or even the same Wink) mobile prices

Confused
Peregrina · 22/09/2021 22:50

Oh yes. No mobile roaming charges abroad, brought to you courtesy of the Tory party they said, not EU legislation.

mathanxiety · 23/09/2021 01:33

From the previous thread -

Assuming the lamb farmers haven't gone out of business, and can find people to work in their abattoirs, and can get CO2 to keep the carcasses cold, and can find drivers to get it to the cargo ships...

Also assuming that Americans develop a taste for lamb. It isn't an everyday choice here.

Lamb

Sheep meat is not as popular as beef, chicken, and pork. On average, an American consumes 0.4 kg of lamb annually. The majority of people who eat lamb and mutton in the U.S. are immigrants from countries where lamb is commonly consumed. Thus, the U.S. imports most of its lamb to meet the current demand.

There is a helpful table.
www.worldatlas.com/articles/meat-consumption-in-america.html

mathanxiety · 23/09/2021 01:38

The body language in the photos speaks volumes.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-58647755

www.gettyimages.in/detail/news-photo/president-joe-biden-right-and-boris-johnson-u-k-prime-news-photo/1235411443

www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-58648729
President Joe Biden has again warned that peace in Northern Ireland must not be jeopardised as a result of complications caused by Brexit.

Mr Biden was speaking at the start of talks in Washington with Boris Johnson.

He said he had concerns about the Irish border, amid continuing issues with the Northern Ireland Protocol.

This is clearly an issue Biden considers important.

mathanxiety · 23/09/2021 01:52

Wrt Congressman Brendan Boyle - Fenian or cunningly disguised spokesman for Biden?

The President has already demonstrated his preference for not shilly shallying, and getting things out of the way. It's possible he sees the appeal of facilitating Irish reunification as a means of ending a longstanding vexatious problem, similar to exiting Afghanistan.

mathanxiety · 23/09/2021 01:54

Brendan Boyle, from Wikipedia -

Early life and education

Boyle is the elder of two sons. His father, Francis (Frank), is an Irish immigrant who came to the United States in 1970 from Glencolmcille, a district in the south-west of County Donegal in Ulster, Ireland, and works as a janitor for the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (SEPTA). His late mother, Eileen, was the child of Irish immigrants from County Sligo; she worked as a Philadelphia School District crossing guard for over 20 years.[3]

Boyle was born and raised in the Olney neighborhood of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He attended Cardinal Dougherty High School before receiving an academic scholarship to the University of Notre Dame, where he earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in 1999, completing the Hesburgh Program in Public Service. After working for several years as a consultant with the United States Department of Defense, including Naval Sea Systems Command, he attended graduate school at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government, where he earned a Master of Public Policy.

vera99 · 23/09/2021 07:59

This sad excuse of a man represents our country on the world stage and we get this. What an embarrassment, can't imagine his pro-speech writers recommended that. The silence is deafening, the clown is dissembling as his woes multiply.

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vera99 · 23/09/2021 08:08

As part of the sectoral impact assessment of Brexit, the Tories commissioned research on the impact on the energy sector back in 2016. They knew, in advance, that if they left the EU’s IEM gas goes up.
Maybe the problem is they can't read? I can't see Johnson continuing in post past spring surely? But then we are in uncharted territory on so many fronts.

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WhatNext2022 · 23/09/2021 08:09

Brexit was never going to be over as soon as the UK left 31 Jan 2020. Transition period ended 31 Dec 2020, but by then COVID had appeared.

UK and the rest of the World will take many years, or even decades, to recover from the disruption and cost of COVID. Can't see Brexit being at the top of anyone's priority list at the moment.

pointythings · 23/09/2021 08:16

UK and the rest of the World will take many years, or even decades, to recover from the disruption and cost of COVID. Can't see Brexit being at the top of anyone's priority list at the moment.

If you mean that doing anything to support the UK with favourable trade deals isn't going to be a priority for other countries, you're probably right.

COVID will indeed continue to impact the world. But the rest of the world doesn't have the self-inflicted damage of Brexit to contend with on top of their troubles.

WhatNext2022 · 23/09/2021 08:29

COVID will indeed continue to impact the world. But the rest of the world doesn't have the self-inflicted damage of Brexit to contend with on top of their troubles

Possible that COVID impacts will eclipse any impacts of Brexit, good or bad, and they become insignificant anyway? Cost of COVID to UK is estimated to be 500 Billion. So, there is 50 years of the Brexit dividend already spent.

TheElementsSong · 23/09/2021 08:49

Ah, but as long as somebody somewhere else is experiencing something that is less than ideal, therefore ToryBrexitannia is great! 🐿🐿🐿🐿

FatCatThinCat · 23/09/2021 09:12

What's happening with leavers? Are they starting to wake up to the shit show they've voted for? All over social media there's tumbleweed where once the Gammonati once hung out. The comments section of papers like the Daily Mail are becoming remainer domains. A well placed, goady 'you won, get over it' doesn't elicit the red arrow rage it once did and now green is dominant. Trolling them is no longer fun.

Even real life leavers are absenting themselves. DH tells me he's now been blocked on social media by leaver friends of family. They've been more than happy to shout him down, call him a traitor and wave their flags at him. But now suddenly they don't want to even see he exists.

Peregrina · 23/09/2021 09:12

In the last Johnson (Kermit the Frog) clip he talked about limiting a temperature rise to 1.5 degrees. That would be Celsius I assume? How remiss - he should of course have quoted in Fahrenheit. Will that get him a telling off from Rees-Mogg?

vera99 · 23/09/2021 09:31

Lord Digby Jones ex rent-a gob Brexit supporter has gone quiet on Twitter as well.

twitter.com/Digbylj

Lord Beefy of Botham our Trade Envoy to Australia (and owner of a vineyard there) - nothing about his Brexit role but has retweeted a tweet from Feargal Sharkey about sewage discharge into Swansea Bay. hmmm

twitter.com/BeefyBotham

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