Brexit Megathread - Part 1 because it's not over by a long shot

[vera99]

Started a new thread for all things Brexity as the last generic dumping ground reached its 1000 post limit. As this developing shitshow unfolds it's going to be important to share and unload. Clav of course will punt a contrarian view along with unrepentant 'taking back control' so-called Brexiteers. I look forward to seeing the benefits.

As much as I would like to hang around and chat today I have a fun day out to a well known visitor attraction - I shall report back if I spot other people shamelessly enjoying themselves.

A couple of brief links:

Yesterday -
Nippon Gases, which sold almost $1.5 billion of industrial gases on the continent last year, said "other countries in Europe will also suffer shortages" of CO2, estimating that its supplies had fallen 50 per cent across the region, the FT said.

Japanese-owned Nippon Gases, which supplies Scandinavian and western European nations including Sweden, France and Germany, said nuclear power stations, meat production and medical purposes were top of the list...

finance.yahoo.com/news/1-uk-carbon-dioxide-shortage-075639224.html

Irish Times, 16 September 2021

Last week a shortfall in power left Ireland at risk of blackouts after the Single Electricity Market Operator (Semo) issued another amber warning “due to a generation shortfall”.

www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/minister-increasingly-confident-on-avoiding-power-blackouts-this-winter-1.4675912

Le Pong!

June 2021
Urban Waste Water: Commission decides to refer FRANCE to the Court of Justice over waste water treatment.

ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_21_1546

Cut n paste inova always goes out, only ever tells us the failings of other countries, preferably EU ones, and never lists the benefits as she sees them of Brexit.

I have zero sympathy for brexit/Tory voters now suffering due to their own stupidity in falling for all the (completely and demonstrably obvious) lies they were told.

And I bet they would all vote exactly the same again, its unbelievable just how cult like their support is, Johnson/Farage and the rest of them know this.

As long as somebody somewhere else is experiencing something that is less than ideal, therefore ToryBrexitannia is great! 🐿🐿🐿🐿

On the plus side; since we are likely to have the Tories in for the foreseeable future, they get ALL the fall out from Brexit.

Which seems to have more bugs than features at the moment. I hope their backers are happy.

No, they do not get the fall out - it's all the Remainers/EU/Corbyn's fault (strike out as appropriate).

they get ALL the fall out from Brexit.

Except, the people who voted for it and campaigned for it don't care how much hardship it brings, even to themselves.
Brexit has bought a united Ireland closer then anything Sinn Féin has ever done and even the DUP are still absolutely 100% committed to it ffs.

The UK government is now warning people about the hidden financial "dangers" of ordering products from the EU !!! ... They didn't put THAT on the side of a bus ! Meanwhile, Uk exporters come up against the almost impenetrable wall of EU regs to protect the single market whereas EU exporters can import with no hindrances we're our border controls are not ready yet.

The implication from that guidance is that it is only because some of it is wine (which is excisable) which is from NZ

It's not that simple

The important thing to note here is the effect of Rules of Origin outside the Customs Union. Johnson's deal only covers EU-made goods. So if your order from the EU has too many non-EU components in it, you'll have to pay tariffs. Brexiters were warned about this but didn't care, the so-called bare bones deal.

France is being referred by the European Commission to the Court of Justice over its failure to meet with waste water disposal requirements set by the EU. One would hope that will lead to improvements.

The Commission presumably can't refer the UK to the Court of Justice in such cases.

I'm hard put to see why this is an advantage of Brexit, TBH.

The Kent Bylines explanation for rises in energy prices.

While perusing the Kent Bylines, I came across this article about why we must reject Fascism This is something that many today e.g. followers of Farage, would do well to remember.

@AuldAlliance
I agree. Did @claivnova post this as a advantage of Brexit? We are now free to pollute?
Wasn't it an EU court that made us clean up our beaches?
Presumably another Brexit bonus will be we're able to swim in sewage again?

The government's own web site says, as the first reason why it is giving additional permission to discharge insufficiently treated effluent, that the lack of necessary chemicals is because of Brexit the UK's new relationship with the EU

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/water-and-sewerage-company-effluent-discharges-supply-chain-failure-rps-b2/water-and-sewerage-company-effluent-discharges-supply-chain-failure-rps-b

Other "unavoidable supply chain failures" If only Brexit had not been unavoidable.

No food on the shelves, filthy water, mass impoverishment. So much winning.

But a volano has erupted somewhere forrin, so all is good.

I do love a good sewage swim. Really helps clear the sinuses and exfoliates the skin.

PMK

Am I correct in thinking that "Westministenders" has died then? I'm guessing this is the new hangout. PMK.

I am old(ish) - I remember having to clean tar and goodness knows what else off my feet after swimming in the sea as a child. Ah the good old days!

@LouiseCollins28 - I'd started to draft a new thread with Westministenders in the title but @vera99 got in before me

Pmk. Although I’m a tiny bit sad that this isn’t a westminstenders, it may be more appropriate, as although things were a bit like a soap opera when these threads started years ago, it’s more like a horror film these days.

Placemat king with ‘my’ hedgehog as I don’t have a cat

I think Westministenders as a title still has relevance as so much of what we have issue with is is the shenanigans at Westminster by the current shower in power (and the lack of credible opposition )

....so it depends on how quickly this thread fills up.

I know you're out having fun and all, @Clavinova, but maybe when you come home, you could actually read that Irish Times article you posted.

PMK. Just back from ensuring both cars are filled up.