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Westminstenders: Put Your Faith In The Home Office

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pointythings · 08/06/2021 08:55

Because there doesn't seem to be a new thread yet. I'm no RTB or any of you other experts, but these threads need to keep going.

Give me a couple weeks and I'll be able to post cat placemarks!

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prettybird · 02/07/2021 12:05

People should plan ahead and not leave registration to the last day.

The people caught up in the name change scenario that I linked to because the Home Office designed a system that couldn't cope with other countries' passport naming conventions are precisely those people who applied early before the Home Office supposedly addressed that glitch Confused

prettybird · 02/07/2021 12:14

Anyway, I'm going to stop engaging with the 🐿 - engaging as it is and how ridiculously easy it is to shoot down their arguments mainly because they don't bother reading the articles that they are trying to refute. Grin

borntobequiet · 02/07/2021 15:06

the UK Government should design its systems to suit the EU27

The UK government should design its systems so they work, which it manifestly fails to do in many cases, which is why if you see the words “government IT system” in any combination you should assume something has/will go wrong.

HarrietPierce · 02/07/2021 15:38

Anyone who thinks the Home Office is fit for purpose :

About 100 EU nationals told to leave Britain — by mistake
Home Office letters raise questions about ability to handle Brexit migration changes. Financial Times :

www.ft.com/content/edfbcb46-8810-11e7-bf50-e1c239b45787

DrBlackbird · 02/07/2021 22:42

More important than any 🐿... what do you think about old tentacles and his missus? Anything else going to come out in the wash?

prettybird · 02/07/2021 22:53

Dh had predicted it at the weekend as he read an article by Lady Macbeth, which had been retweeted by Marina Hyde of all people, essentially (iirc from his description) warning that politicians need to keep their dicks in the trousers or there will be consequences. It was nominally about the Hancock affair - but painting a more general picture and was very obviously alluding to issues closer to home Shock

So what has Tentacles Slapping been up to and with whom? Hmm

DrBlackbird · 02/07/2021 23:04

The mind boggles at either Hancock or Gove being attractive to other partners Shock.

Not to mention that you'd hope they'd be to busy, you know, navigating leaving a custom union/single market and managing a pandemic to get up to all these bloody affairs.

But hey... someone will be along shortly to say that everything is fiiiinne with our current cabinet.

DrBlackbird · 02/07/2021 23:10

No personal agenda here then Wink

"Michael Gove said the Prime Minister was right not to sack Matt Hancock over his affair with an adviser"

mathanxiety · 03/07/2021 06:54

...the people of NI voted (narrowly, admittedly) against Brexshit

55.8% - 44.2% isn't that narrow a margin.

mathanxiety · 03/07/2021 07:18

It always amuses me that when I post something on here that some posters disagree with they falsely credit me with thinking or saying other things. They even extrapolate that I must therefore mean x,y or z.

@yellowspanner

"So, I take it you all think the additional jobs in Sunderland are not a good idea. I can only assume that you would prefer the UK to fail so you can gloat."

You mean extrapolations like this ^^ ?

mathanxiety · 03/07/2021 07:30

Listen if you dare, and weep.
The punchline is at the end.

twitter.com/Femi_Sorry/status/1410965901487362054

"Boris Johnson stood next to Angela Merkel pointing out the ridiculousness of the consequences of the Brexit he created."

"He doesn't understand how embarrassing this is."

chantuelle
@ifill_james
16h
Replying to
@Femi_Sorry
Never Forget:
THEY CELEBRATED THIS DEAL WITH CHAMPAGNE

(It's really not extraordinary that 20% of the checks on goods around the entire EU perimeter take place between NI and GB because NI-rest of the UK trade is predictably a high volume proposition which is now subject to the rules established in the Protocol.)

DGRossetti · 03/07/2021 08:23

Fun fact: The DWP can take "up to a year" to process a cancellation of Carers allowance (I discovered yesterday). Any money paid out after you have notified them of your change in circumstances is not reclaimed, so effectively free money.

That's how competent UK government is.

wewereliars · 03/07/2021 08:40

What will be the tipping point though? What does this incompetent self serving socipath have to do for a reckoning to come?! The hard of thinking brexiters are still cheering this corrupt clown car of a government on.

Peregrina · 03/07/2021 09:40

55.8% - 44.2% isn't that narrow a margin.

Indeed, elsewhere we were told that 52% - 48% was "overwhelming".

Peregrina · 03/07/2021 09:41

DGR - that sounds like one of the few cases where the disadvantaged get a bit lucky.

Peregrina · 03/07/2021 09:48

mathanxiety - the wurst pun indeed! But hearing that clip you would never realise that He signed that protocol - not Theresa May, David Cameron, Gordon Brown or Tony Blair, but Boris de pfeffle Johnson.

DGRossetti · 03/07/2021 13:07

@Peregrina

DGR - that sounds like one of the few cases where the disadvantaged get a bit lucky.
Not really. Both you and I know it will simply be folded into the "benefit fraudster" narrative and used to pare back benefits even more.

In discussion with the agent, it transpired there is no mechanism to repay such mistakes. Mainly because (and they said this with no hint of irony) "We don't make mistakes".

I can only presume they are competing with the Home "mistakes are what other people do" Office for Kafkaesque cruelty.

Remember the very existence of the court(s) of appeal is a relatively new phenomenon ... after all if justice is perfect why on earth would you need an appeal court ? (Which is the Priti Patel view of life, by the way. Question Time - 22 September 2011)

DGRossetti · 03/07/2021 15:41

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Westminstenders: Put Your Faith In The Home Office
dontcallmelen · 04/07/2021 12:44

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HarrietPierce · 04/07/2021 17:59

Didn't realise there was a thread called " Seriously??? You left. Deal with it".

DrBlackbird · 04/07/2021 22:28

Frost clearly believes that the EU's willingness to grant an extension on chilled food and meats for NI was down to his hard man tactics and not to the fact that they're only adults in the room and so is following up with more of the same Its depressing just how spoilt and simultaneously inept they are all...

mathanxiety · 05/07/2021 22:31

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-57722457

No real surprises here.

Johnson so lazy and incompetent that Cummings and the disaster capitalists were happy to see him become PM so that they could effect constitutional changes any other leader would strenuously question. See also Tories forced out of the party after the ascent of Cummings, presumably for the same reason.

Wondering what the occasion for each set of revelations is, and if this latest one and the Gove/Vine announcement is tied to this.

Gove cronies Simone Finn and Harry Newman seem to be getting very comfy in Number 10 of late.

prettybird · 05/07/2021 23:05

I do find it somewhat Confused listening to BJ saying it was time to move on to people "exercising" personal responsibility with regard to Covid.

He has set such a good example Hmm

prettybird · 05/07/2021 23:05

Of course, he's only talking about England Wink

quiteathome · 06/07/2021 16:37

Lidl seem to be spreading random stock they can't sell along some of their shelves. I can't tell if this is normal now. Or due to the time of day I am going at the moment. Sanpro was also very low in stock.