Westminstenders: Put Your Faith In The Home Office

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Because there doesn't seem to be a new thread yet. I'm no RTB or any of you other experts, but these threads need to keep going.

Give me a couple weeks and I'll be able to post cat placemarks!

Unelected beaurocrat Lord Frost seems to be getting very angry about this Brexshit deal, negotiated by, checks notes , er, Lord Frost...

I was mirroring what JasJas said. It's ok if she says it but not me. Is that right?

@yellowspanner

I was mirroring what JasJas said. It's ok if she says it but not me. Is that right?

No, it isn't right no matter who says it. But JasJas made it clear (though not sufficiently for some) that she was joking. I reckon you were too.

Dido Harding, A Life in the Day.
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@yellowspanner

I was mirroring what JasJas said. It's ok if she says it but not me. Is that right?

I ve sent my DD trekking across Dartmoor today, after she said she thought Matt Hancock was hopeless, how dare she repeat what a tory said.........

Oh dear another group not happy with Johnson's Brexit deal. This time it's pigeon fanciers

Who knew that France was a sovereign country and could make its own rules.

@Peregrina

Oh dear another group not happy with Johnson's Brexit deal. This time it's pigeon fanciers

Who knew that France was a sovereign country and could make its own rules.

Ir really is much quicker to list all the people who are happy with Boris deal. Bearing in mind even Boris isn't happy with it.

Looks like Yellow is in a minority.

Oh, the irony.

Government trying to privatise CH 4, as only news programme which challenges their lies. Daily Mail blasting the lovely Jon Snow for being left wing.

Can they do that, Harriet? Frightening times if so.

Oh, it's all going so well...

"Roaming charges to return for travellers to EU."

Honestly. Has there been a single benefit? And don't talk about meaningless shit about the ECJ...

Didn't Theresa May crow about how the Tories had eliminated Roaming charges. It took a few people to point out to her that it was an EU initiative.

But still, it's only entitled elitist people who go abroad, so that's all right.

I'd forgotten about that!

I'd love someone Channel 4 to bring that up with her!

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/23/moving-on-why-the-eu-is-not-missing-britain-that-much

Hannibal I haven't seen a benefit either.

There's a border in the Irish Sea.
UK citizens have lost rights. We can't go to live or work in the EU.
EU citizens have been let down. We seem to have alienated a lot of European countries.
It's harder to trade with the EU. More red tape, and it's likely prices will rise.
It'll be more expensive and bureaucratic to travel there. Visas, no EHIC.
US and other trade deals won't make up for the losses.
A US trade deal is miles off anyway.
I suspect food standards will fall.
Fishers and farmers are very unhappy.
Hospitality, chemicals, culture, fashion industries also unhappy.
NHS will struggle to recruit enough staff.
Roaming charges return.
And, the Union has been undermined.

Somebody tell me something good! This is so depressing.

Blue passports! Don't forget the blue passports!

And don't forget being free of the clutches of the dreaded ECJ! That's worth any £££ of roaming charges!

And operators must take “reasonable steps” to avoid customers being charged for accidental roaming in Northern Ireland, which would happen if a phone locked onto the mobile signal coming from the Irish Republic.

What could possibly go wrong? This will not help relations with the Republic or ease the tensions in NI.

Less seriously it could also happen with people on the south coast picking up the signal from France, which has happened to me before.

Channel 4 news on now talking about supermarket shortages to come... can't have this bad news bringing us down so the answer is to privatise the channel.

'1Britain1Nation' seems very tone deaf as a concept to be celebrated in NI, where individuals have the right to identify as Irish, and an actual shooting war has been fought in living memory over the question of whether the province belongs in Britain. Not to mention that NI isn't technically in 'Britain'.

@mathanxiety

'1Britain1Nation' seems very tone deaf as a concept to be celebrated in NI, where individuals have the right to identify as Irish, and an actual shooting war has been fought in living memory over the question of whether the province belongs in Britain. Not to mention that NI isn't technically in 'Britain'.

Given Johnsolinis edict that the National Song should be sung every day before work, I suspect anyone born in NI who wants to identify as Irish is going to face the full hostile environment of the Home Office.

The OBON Day thing hasn't gone down too well in Wales, either. The Welsh Government has basically told Westminster to do one, and FAW is encouraging schoolchildren to sing the Welsh national anthem on Friday.

DrBlackbird Wed 23-Jun-21 22:18:32
"Channel 4 news on now talking about supermarket shortages to come... can't have this bad news bringing us down so the answer is to privatise the channel."

The Tories very likely have an idea who would be interested in buying CH4, and it will undoubtedly be a wealthy right wing group who will turn it into a Tory propaganda channel, like the BBC is becoming.

My take on talking to Brexiteers, an admittedly small sample is that they are delighted to be out of the ECJ, and of unelected EU burocrats.
Anything else is quite simply "white noise".

Yet strangely they have no problem with an unelected House of Lords, some of whom appear to be there because they have donated to the current ruling party. Others were rejected by the electorate, but given places in the Lords.

They have no problem with an unelected WTO. No problem with an unelected NATO. It's all very odd.

The True BeLeavers are an odd bunch. No rationale behind any of their thinking, and perfectly happy to see their country go down the toilet.