Westminstenders: Put Your Faith In The Home Office

[pointythings]

Because there doesn't seem to be a new thread yet. I'm no RTB or any of you other experts, but these threads need to keep going.

Give me a couple weeks and I'll be able to post cat placemarks!

@Peregrina

Well you see jasjas, young people tend not to vote Tory.

Funny really, I've got progressively more left wing as i ve gotten older, my DD and her Uni cohort are all rabid Corbynista's

I'll disown her if she ever voted Tory lol!

The young people in my family all vote Tory. Some are Tory Party members.
I'd disown them if they voted Labour.
You can't generalise.

yellowspanner it is well documented that on a population level young people tend not to vote Tory. Your anecdata does not change that.

And you'd disown them for making a political choice different to yours? Really?

I wasn't generalising - it is well known that younger people tend not to vote Tory. Most Tory party members are getting on a bit.

It's a bit like others declaring that it was the baby boom generation which voted Leave - not all of them/us. (Leaving aside the difference between the UK and US baby booms.)

I disagree with several things my DDs believe - many are around gender identity politics. Would never disown them though, we just agree to differ. Anyone, left or right, who would fragment their family for making different political choices is someone I have no time for.

I am however glad that my kids are proper lefties like me - it does make things more harmonious.

My parents used always to vote differently and cancel each other's votes out. Maggie Thatcher finished it for one, Blair for the other, and then they moved back to Wales, and I think might have voted for Plaid Cymru.

notice that the spanner doesn't comment on all the other issues, but just tries to deflect by pretending that h=the young people in it's family are all stupid/indoctrinated.

One might now ask whether Johnson and chums really are Tory?Can a party which chucked out Dominic Grieve, Gaulke, Rory Stewart, Justine Greening etc. all of whom were Tory and as far as I could tell were perfectly decent MPs still be considered as such?

It would be perfectly possible to imagine if suddenly the Monster Raving Loony Party started to sweep all before it, Johnson would be there rushing ahead to claim allegiance to it.

Younger people tend to vote Labour, older to vote Conservative. But the detail is interesting.

The exact relationship between age and voting behaviour has fluctuated over the last three elections, but in 2015, 2017, and again in 2019, age was one of the most important predictors of how people voted.

www.britishelectionstudy.com/bes-findings/age-and-voting-behaviour-at-the-2019-general-election/#.YNEIJC14WhA

I can’t imagine disowning a member of my family for having different political opinions from my own…

I'm not sure. If anyone in my family had been stupid enough to vote for Brexshit I would certainly have, shall we say, thought less of them...

So Johnson messing around and not dealing properly with Covid has helped kill off a bunch of his supporters. That's not very clever, is it?

Brexshit hate mail still being sent out.

Lovely people these Brexshittiers...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57555608

...
Mr Moore said Brexit was "definitely the biggest" factor behind staff shortages, and he said the "heartbeat" of the hospitality industry was "young kids" coming from abroad to work in restaurants and bars to gain life experience and new skills.

"[The government] don't realise the huge commodity we have that they have excluded us from, that keeps this industry moving more than anything else," he said.

,,,

@Peregrina

So Johnson messing around and not dealing properly with Covid has helped kill off a bunch of his supporters. That's not very clever, is it?

...and his oven ready plan for adult social care seems to be more a collection of ingredients not yet paid for.

For clarity... i was joking about disowning my DD., hence the "lol"

Yes Yellow if you want to be taken serious, it would help if you answered reasonably put questions, instead of ignoring them.

Off topic.... DD worked in MH, sees gender/trans totally differently to me, i've learnt a lot from her & my opinions have changed.

One might now ask whether Johnson and chums really are Tory?

Good question.

Certainly not going by any past resemblance of the party. I think this break from longstanding Tory principles (fiscal management, support for the rule of law in name at least ) reflects Johnson's essential non political nature and his lack of ideology. The party and the position were/are simply the mechanisms to fulfill his need for attention and constant validation.

This government is run by a bunch of journalists fgs.

On the other hand, Labour never would have been allowed to pour so much money into a Covid strategy, been able to massively screw up NI or the GFA, been allowed to speak of a northern levelling up, or part renationalised the rail etc. The press would have ripped them to shreds and the Tories would have tried to blocked every move.

So we're stuck with these lackeys for now. I'd feel better if only there was some sense that Labour was using this time to rebuild, develop a vision and sound strategy....

Was Boris Johnson really a journalist? Is that all that making up rubbish involves?

Was Boris Johnson really a journalist? Is that all that making up rubbish involves?

No, he was just paid by a newspaper, never a journalist

So long as we keep saying "...but what about Labour?" we will always be stuck with the tories, we are basically doing their (anti Lab) PR for them.

@jasjas1973

So long as we keep saying "...but what about Labour?" we will always be stuck with the tories, we are basically doing their (anti Lab) PR for them.

Indeed.

Although I have the luxury of having a viable alternative party for whom to vote

but I do want to have option of voting for a "Scottish Labour" party in the future

although who knows, I may end up voting Green

Department for Education
@educationgovuk
We're encouraging schools across the UK to celebrate One Britain One Nation Day on 25 June, when children can learn about our shared values of tolerance, kindness, pride and respect.
#OBONDAY21
@1Britain1Nation

For more information:
onebritainonenation.com

Ein Reich, ein volk...

Boris Johnson 12th May 2013 :

The EU" is better placed to strike trade deals with the US, or China, than the UK on its own. More generally, there is a risk that leaving the EU will be globally interpreted as a narrow, xenophobic, backward looking thing to do."

Well you're correct there Johnson, but you just went with whatever was expedient for yourself !

Given that the majority of school kids in Scotland finish school for the holidays at 1pm on 25 June (definitely Glasgow and I'm sure many others LAs), I doubt that they are going to do anything to celebrate "One Britain, One Nation Day".

It demonstrates yet again how little awareness WM has of Scotland and its differences

Frankly, most schools would have no time to do anything with 2 days notice, even if there was some wish (highly unlikely) to support this 'day'.

Actually - I got it wrong: schools in Glasgow close at 1pm on Thursday 24th June