Westminstenders: Put Your Faith In The Home Office

[pointythings]

Because there doesn't seem to be a new thread yet. I'm no RTB or any of you other experts, but these threads need to keep going.

Give me a couple weeks and I'll be able to post cat placemarks!

Is all the Swiss chalet stuff another rather pathetic attempt to paint those of us who aren't happy with the fallout of Brexit as elitists? I mean, I will confess to having been to Switzerland - once in my parents' campervan and then later on for a fencing competition, during which we stayed in youth hostels because hotels were unaffordable for us.

Anyone who has been on a European holiday is not allowed an opinion?

Brexit is a shitshow regardless of where you holidayed in the past, present of even the future TheHate. You are trying different flavours of divide and rule yourself.

Met with 2 neighbours last night who both voted for Brexit, and who were now SO RELIEVED that we are out of the EU.
They were genuinely amazed I was a remainer, view the EU's days as numbered, particularly with the shenanigans of Macron & Merkel, and feel it is to our advantage to have been first out through the door.
I think in the long term they may well be proven right.

What did they feel Macron and Merkel had done?

OK, I'll join in;

@KonTikki

Met with 2 neighbours last night who both voted for Brexit, and who were now SO RELIEVED that we are out of the EU. They were genuinely amazed I was a remainer, view the EU's days as numbered, particularly with the shenanigans of Macron & Merkel, and feel it is to our advantage to have been first out through the door. I think in the long term they may well be proven right.

This is yet another example of people who only talk in Express headlines. I had one on twitter recently who said he "didn't like the idea of the EU". Could actually say what he meant by that, was just parroting a line from someone else.

It's the lack of education, and particularly the anti-intellectualism, in this country that has led us to this sorry state.

I trust that these SO RELIEVED neighbours weren't in the fishing industry, aren't farming, and not in Road Haulage. Merkel will be gone in months, Macron, who knows - but the fall out from Brexit will go on and on. Were they happy with Orban being invited to the UK?

Did you ask them KonTikki about the money for the NHS? It sorely needs it now, with the pressure that the last year has put it under.

Give me Merkel over the clown "leading" Britain any day.

I don't know what shenanigans Merkel is supposed to have been up to. She seems a model of sobriety to me. Macron, maybe. What then did they make of PM Johnson?

That appears to be the trouble - the Brexiters appear to have a total disconnect when it comes to Johnson.

BJ signed this deal, lawyers would have been all over it, so there would be no ambiguity.

No wonder the EU are pissed off.

But if the agreement really was so badly written, then why did BoJo sign it?

@Peregrina

A very quick piece of googling shows that until 1962 Commonwealth Citizens could come here with no restriction.

But somehow, they were supposed to anticipate that 50 years later a bigotted racist government would decide to change the rules.

It’s notable that some people are able to combine jingoistic patriotism with a profound ignorance of the history of the British Commonwealth and the rights of its citizens. But no surprise at all.

I don't know what shenanigans Merkel is supposed to have been up to.

I’m intrigued too. A 60 something East German scientist, ex-leader of the Christian Democratic Union, German Chancellor…shenanigans?

I suspect the "shenanigans" of Macron and Merkel are simply that they stood up for the principles of the EU and didn't roll over and let the important UK get everlasting cake what it wanted

Essentially, they were strong enough, confident enough, sensible enough not to fall for "don't they know who we are?" line and worse refused to let a "divide and rule" approach work.

I don't know what shenanigans Merkel is supposed to have been up to.

"Existing whilst Foreign," I'd wager.

"Essentially, they were strong enough, confident enough, sensible enough not to fall for "don't they know who we are?" line and worse refused to let a "divide and rule" approach work. "

Exactly. But if we are talking about "shenanigans" this Tory Government could be considered "World Beating"

@TheElementsSong

I don't know what shenanigans Merkel is supposed to have been up to.

"Existing whilst Foreign," I'd wager.

Indeed . And even more heinous: existing as more successful countries without "needing" the UK

I'm here all week ..

Then, when he realises you’ve crossed him, you are a mile away and you have his shoes 😊

This is fun...

A bit too close to reality

And while I am delighted that BJ is helping the cause of Scottish independence, I'm genuinely both angry and sad that he is doing so by damaging sooo many people's lives

Apparently Biden did deliver a candid message to the Spaffer.

...now, whose version of the discussions between Biden and BJ would you believe?

The White House version or Downing Street's version?

Mr Johnson is said to have teased Mr Macron about French military prowess on Sunday. The prime minister said the wine he gave to Biden “was as old as when the French last won a naval battle,” according to The Sun.

From the Indie article linked above. He’s such a tosser, on an international scale.

Ah yes Mr Boris Johnson, the high decorated war hero.

I'm sure there is a poem about people like him.

The BBC just now, reporting on the UK-Australia trade deal: Australian meat has been locked out of the UK market for the last 50 years