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Westminstenders: Sleaze. The Return.

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RedToothBrush · 25/04/2021 13:37

The Brexit Agreement is still not signed. The EU are still pissed off with our bad attitude and how we managed to a have better deal on AstraZeneca's vaccines which they don't seem to like anyway.

The Ireland / NI border is still a mess. Both politically and economically. This is apparently something that wasn't discussed pre referedum, with regular Westminstenders suffering from collective delusions over remembering differently and reading madeup stories which just happen to be dated prior to the referendum. Its a sign of how good fake news has got.

The lying architect of Vote Leave is complaining about the lying of Vote Leave's biggest champion and cheerleader, countered with the pm who cheated on his ex wife multiple times and ran off with a younger woman accusing his former aid of being deeply sexist.

The government is embroiled in numerous accusations of lining its own pockets following the brexit power grab by the right wing of the party. Which of course wasn't a worry pre referendum. As of course accountability generally.

In keeping with taking a lead on the world stage, we have seen through our promises to cut back on overseas aid, instead preferring to spend money on trading. This is well represented by our purchasing of 10million AZ vaccines from India with not much sign of sending aid to help with the unfolding humanitarian crisis there.

Our post Brexit foreign policy looks muddled at best. The new world order is a big confusing. We dont mind trading with regimes which have human rights abuses... As long as they are countries which are smaller than us and we can exploit. We don't particularly like China atm because we aren't getting much out of the shitting on others. Plus its not really proving a great opportunity for Westerners to line their pockets like other dodgy regimes because its generally closed to outsiders and this is even more true in covid times.

But don't worry, we will soon be able to go abroad again on our covid passports. The 17th May beckons when the penny will drop that efforts to integrate medical records with passport data which apparently border agencies are working on, isn't ready yet and that doesn't matter because other countries won't be ready to let us in yet, especially since we are outside the EU and EEA and we haven't been great at talking to them. And we probably will still have to quarantine on return anyway. (End of June is still optimistic but more realistic).

We've still to impose customs checks yet because we didn't want to do it in April in case that meant the shops would be empty when they reopened. So we still have that joy to look forward to. Great for EU exporters. Less great for uk exporters. For now.

Of course we have the May Council elections to look forward to, in which it will become apparent just how fucking useless and invisible Keir Starmer is and how Labour policies are not connecting with voters in spite of all of the above. Mainly due to navel gazing and an inability to get beyond their social circle. Any good ideas they do have are promptly nicked by the Tories.

Post Brexit talk of reviewing the Monarchy are also growing in steam...

If we look back it feels like the sleaziness of the early nineties has returned but with no prospect of joining the Eu, no John Smith or Smiling Tony to inspire, no coming Cool Brittania to cheer us up. Just sleaze tolerated and accepted, rather than rejected. And one massive debt than had been largely repaid.

Its hard to see where we go from here. We seem bewildered by geography and confused by technology. Unwilling to invest in science and no longer aligned with the right people to collaborate effectively.

Instead we are more pre occupied with in fighting.

As a friend said to me this week, they had started to watch alternative news channels to British based ones because she felt we had become so inward looking. She felt like our mentality was increasing like the US which simply was unaware of events and ideas beyond our borders. I think its a comment that has so much ressonnance.

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Peregrina · 12/05/2021 23:07

I do wonder if Johnson will bring himself down by doing something stupid like this.

JamieLeeCurtains · 12/05/2021 23:21

Maybe Carrie was supposed to do all the lifemin and pay the plumber now that she's his new support human for a while.

Jason118 · 13/05/2021 00:00

His credit score must be through the floor. Grin

Peregrina · 13/05/2021 08:08

But still he will have Tories happy to give him money. Or now make sure that money gets to him via a backdoor route.

Clavinova · 13/05/2021 09:46

Maybe Carrie was supposed to do all the lifemin and pay the plumber

Not a plumber -

Boris Johnson has been hit with a court judgment for an unpaid debt after a Covid conspiracy theorist bizarrely claimed he had repeatedly slandered her.

The case was brought by an Yvonne Hobbs against 'The Rt Hon Boris Johnson' and she gave her reason for the debt as: 'Committed repeated defamation.'

She used the Online Civil Money Claims service to state that the Prime Minister owed her £535.

But the [Daily] Mail can reveal Miss Hobbs, 59, of Leicestershire, is a Covid conspiracy theorist who has launched multiple claims against Mr Johnson and public institutions. She often sends copies of her complaints to the Queen, the BBC, the House of Commons and House of Lords.

She has launched legal actions against Marks and Spencer, Royal Mail, Chancellor Rishi Sunak and numerous public companies.

Another recent complaint to 'wrongdoer' Mr Johnson was also filed. Mr Johnson has never made a public statement referring to Miss Hobbs.

Because letters about the alleged debt were apparently sent to 10 Downing Street but went unanswered, a default County Court Judgment was issued on October 26 last year without any defence being offered.

Downing Street believes the claim is completely bogus and the CCJ should not have been issued...

It is understood that Mr Johnson had no idea about it until the first details were revealed by satirical magazine Private Eye yesterday...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9572541/Boris-Johnsons-535-county-court-ruling-came-Covid-conspiracy-theorists-slander-allegation.html

Clavinova · 13/05/2021 10:02

Barnier included. But he is now nothing to do with us

But surely - Barnier is 'fair game' at the moment because of his newly published book - published only a week ago. I've been hearing quotes from his book for days. 'There is no such thing as bad publicity' when you have a book to sell. Grin

Peregrina · 13/05/2021 10:29

Time you moved on Clavinova - you have your Brexit.

As to the vexatious nature of the CCJ claim - someone should have been keeping an eye on the post and moved to deal with it, in a timely fashion. I know the excuse will be that Johnson was dealing with Covid but most of last year he was arsing around and doing anything but deal with it. Things seem a bit calmer with Cummings no longer on the scene.

JamieLeeCurtains · 13/05/2021 10:34

How on earth did the 10 Downing Street staff miss that county court claim? All it needed was a one paragraph response, that it wasn't even in the jurisdiction of the small claims track and was frivolous and vexatious. The end.

Clavinova · 13/05/2021 10:44

I like to brighten up your day Peregrina. Grin

Peregrina · 13/05/2021 10:49

My days have been brightened by some very satisfactory local election results. Including seeing the Tory Council leader lose his seat. To be fair, he appears to have been gracious in defeat. As was Michael Portillo back that time in 1997.

Clavinova · 13/05/2021 10:54

The BBC has issued an apology to James Dyson...

In a statement the BBC said: “We accept that Sir James Dyson is not a prominent Conservative supporter as was stated in some of our coverage of his text messages with the Prime Minister.

“The James Dyson Foundation made a charitable gift to support the Wiltshire Engineering Festival for school children. We accept that this does not signal affiliation to any political party and we would like to put the record straight.”

The BBC said the inventor had also raised concerns about the accuracy of other aspects of its reporting, adding: “We wish to make clear that Sir James contacted Number 10 in response to the Prime Minister’s direct request to him for assistance in relation to the urgent need for ventilators and incurred costs of £20m which his company voluntarily absorbed in trying to assist in the national emergency.

“His text messages to the Prime Minister were also later sent to officials. We are sorry that these facts were not always reflected in our coverage, and we apologise for not doing so.”

www.cityam.com/bbc-apologies-to-james-dyson-for-labelling-him-a-prominent-tory-supporter/

Peregrina · 13/05/2021 11:01

What do we make of that? You have to apologise for calling someone a Conservative?

HarrietPierce · 13/05/2021 11:05

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Clavinova · 13/05/2021 11:10

My days have been brightened by some very satisfactory local election results.

I have voted for Lib Dem councillors myself in the past. Don't forget of course, that EU citizens can vote in council elections - but not (currently) in general elections. Also, I think the Lib Dem candidate for London Mayor lost her deposit.

Peregrina · 13/05/2021 11:22

I think a whole pile of people lost their deposits in the London Mayoral election. Next piece of irrelevance........

Well, except what's his name Fox wants to set up a pub with Tice serving only English food, and we are having fun on a facebook page trying to work out what exactly he will be able to serve. Turnips feature heavily.

Clavinova · 13/05/2021 11:44

set up a pub...serving only English food

Sounds like a good marketing ploy to me;

Waitrose - We're backing British;

www.waitrose.com/home/inspiration/about_waitrose/the_waitrose_way/the_origin_of_our_food.html

Aldi - We’re committed to sourcing our products from the UK;

www.aldi.co.uk/british-quality#:~:text=As%20part%20of%20Aldi's%20commitment,we%20sell%20which%20is%20British.

DGRossetti · 13/05/2021 12:34

It's a very quiet office today (and the roads were deserted this morning, reducing my 45 minute commute to 25 minutes).

However we are rushed off our feet workwise. There's a lot going on in the public-private space at the moment.

Just for completeness.

HannibalHayeski · 13/05/2021 13:51

Oh this is going to be so helpful to all UK citizens when EU countries start playing reciprocity...

Europeans with job interviews tell of detentions and expulsions despite rules allowing non-visa holders to attend interviews

Clavinova · 13/05/2021 14:24

'Maria' and 'Eugenia' don't appear to have had have job interviews lined up at all and specific details regarding the other detainees has been taken at face value from their 'hearsay'.

María, 25, from Valencia, said that like many of those detained, she thought she was free to explore the job market at least until October...

Eugenia, a 24-year-old woman from the Basque region of northern Spain, reached Gatwick on Sunday 2 February on a flight from Bilbao. She planned to look for a job offer, go home to apply for a visa...

Clavinova · 13/05/2021 14:26

have had

Peregrina · 13/05/2021 14:29

This of course is going to get us a reputation for being globally welcoming.

TatianaBis · 13/05/2021 16:39

80% of British food is imported.

The Waitrose line is simply for Brexit twats.

yellowspanner · 13/05/2021 18:00

My days have been considerably brightened by many recent election results and by the by-election result.
I'm glad others feel the same.

Clavinova · 13/05/2021 18:01

TatianaBis
80% of British food is imported

Not according to this article in Countryfile magazine;

The UK grows 61% of the food it eats, according to the National Farming Union (NFU),Tim Lang, Professor of Food Policy at City, University of London, and DEFRA’s Agriculture in the UK paper (July 2017). Government sources sometimes quote a figure of 75% but this excludes ‘non-indigenous’ items such as exotic fruit – bananas and mangoes, tea, coffee and spices – foods that cannot be grown (either at all or on a meaningful scale) in the UK.

www.countryfile.com/news/can-the-uk-feed-itself-after-brexit/

yellowspanner · 13/05/2021 18:04

Even though a lot of our food is imported Waitrose need to be congratulated for aiming to reduce food miles as well as supporting local producers and buying from UK suppliers where possible.
Surely everyone supports reducing the distances food has to travel in order to help with our carbon neutral targets.

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