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Westminstenders: Sleaze. The Return.

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RedToothBrush · 25/04/2021 13:37

The Brexit Agreement is still not signed. The EU are still pissed off with our bad attitude and how we managed to a have better deal on AstraZeneca's vaccines which they don't seem to like anyway.

The Ireland / NI border is still a mess. Both politically and economically. This is apparently something that wasn't discussed pre referedum, with regular Westminstenders suffering from collective delusions over remembering differently and reading madeup stories which just happen to be dated prior to the referendum. Its a sign of how good fake news has got.

The lying architect of Vote Leave is complaining about the lying of Vote Leave's biggest champion and cheerleader, countered with the pm who cheated on his ex wife multiple times and ran off with a younger woman accusing his former aid of being deeply sexist.

The government is embroiled in numerous accusations of lining its own pockets following the brexit power grab by the right wing of the party. Which of course wasn't a worry pre referendum. As of course accountability generally.

In keeping with taking a lead on the world stage, we have seen through our promises to cut back on overseas aid, instead preferring to spend money on trading. This is well represented by our purchasing of 10million AZ vaccines from India with not much sign of sending aid to help with the unfolding humanitarian crisis there.

Our post Brexit foreign policy looks muddled at best. The new world order is a big confusing. We dont mind trading with regimes which have human rights abuses... As long as they are countries which are smaller than us and we can exploit. We don't particularly like China atm because we aren't getting much out of the shitting on others. Plus its not really proving a great opportunity for Westerners to line their pockets like other dodgy regimes because its generally closed to outsiders and this is even more true in covid times.

But don't worry, we will soon be able to go abroad again on our covid passports. The 17th May beckons when the penny will drop that efforts to integrate medical records with passport data which apparently border agencies are working on, isn't ready yet and that doesn't matter because other countries won't be ready to let us in yet, especially since we are outside the EU and EEA and we haven't been great at talking to them. And we probably will still have to quarantine on return anyway. (End of June is still optimistic but more realistic).

We've still to impose customs checks yet because we didn't want to do it in April in case that meant the shops would be empty when they reopened. So we still have that joy to look forward to. Great for EU exporters. Less great for uk exporters. For now.

Of course we have the May Council elections to look forward to, in which it will become apparent just how fucking useless and invisible Keir Starmer is and how Labour policies are not connecting with voters in spite of all of the above. Mainly due to navel gazing and an inability to get beyond their social circle. Any good ideas they do have are promptly nicked by the Tories.

Post Brexit talk of reviewing the Monarchy are also growing in steam...

If we look back it feels like the sleaziness of the early nineties has returned but with no prospect of joining the Eu, no John Smith or Smiling Tony to inspire, no coming Cool Brittania to cheer us up. Just sleaze tolerated and accepted, rather than rejected. And one massive debt than had been largely repaid.

Its hard to see where we go from here. We seem bewildered by geography and confused by technology. Unwilling to invest in science and no longer aligned with the right people to collaborate effectively.

Instead we are more pre occupied with in fighting.

As a friend said to me this week, they had started to watch alternative news channels to British based ones because she felt we had become so inward looking. She felt like our mentality was increasing like the US which simply was unaware of events and ideas beyond our borders. I think its a comment that has so much ressonnance.

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Clavinova · 29/04/2021 11:57

April 2017
Blue Riband biscuit production to be moved to Poland.

a Nestle spokesman denied the proposals were anything to do with Brexit.

He told the BBC: "This move would be necessary irrespective of the decision to leave the EU."

The spokesman added that Blue Riband was one of 16 products made at the Newcastle Fawdon site and was the only one being moved "to simplify production on a very complicated site".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39708689

UltimateFoole · 29/04/2021 11:58

@longwayoff

I have to dig through my recycling, there's a book in there called Dictator Chic. Thought it's time was over but need another look at it now.
Sounds fab. Post some images from it for us all to enjoy.

In the interests of accuracy I would like to add, separately, that the photos going around as being the Symonds-Johnson Downing Street flat are actually just images of the interior designer's other work. It is perfectly possible that Cadger and Bodger have a flat done out in impeccable non-dictator taste.

FatCatThinCat · 29/04/2021 12:20

I'm genuinely struggling to get my head around the decorating whoohaa. So he gets a budget of £30k from the public purse and it appears to have cost at least £58k further. So at a minimum he's spent £88k on these renovations (which is more than my house cost to buy). What sort of deranged fool spends that amount (which he couldn't afford) to decorate a flat that was last decorated 3/4 years ago, that they don't own, and could in theory be thrown out at a moment's notice? Doesn't say much for his judgment or fiscal responsibility.

Jason118 · 29/04/2021 12:41

Doesn't say much for his judgment or fiscal responsibility.

But it says everything about his sense of entitlement

HappyWinter · 29/04/2021 13:08

FatCatThinCat DH was saying the same, why would you spend that much on a flat you don't own? £30k a year is a very generous decorating allowance already. I'm not sure Boris knows how to say no to Carrie, he has a track record for telling people what they want to hear.

TheElementsSong · 29/04/2021 13:13

Is it just me, or has the quality of 🐿 deteriorated into flailing incoherence? I'm feeling less like I'm reading a procession of 🐿 🐿 🐿 🐿 than 🐒🦄🐉🦩🦤🦃🦨?

HappyWinter · 29/04/2021 13:21

I'm ashamed that the UK is cutting aid, with such stark consequences.

‘Devastating for women and girls’: UK cuts 85% in aid to UN family planning
UNFPA says £130m being withheld would have helped prevent 250,000 child and maternal deaths in poorest countries

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/apr/29/devastating-for-women-and-girls-uk-cuts-85-in-aid-to-un-family-planning

borntobequiet · 29/04/2021 13:23

I’m just amazed that the Blue Riband biscuit was still a thing. It was never an inspiring product. Also the fact that it was named for the award for the fastest Atlantic crossing by ship was one of those things deemed essential knowledge in my schooldays, goodness knows why. It even came up in a general knowledge quiz at work recently, everyone was amazed by my esoteric fund of knowledge, but that’s purely down to a) the randomness of education in the so-called Golden Age and b) my tendency to read any text within eyesight and remember inconsequential information.

borntobequiet · 29/04/2021 13:25

It is perfectly possible that Cadger and Bodger have a flat done out in impeccable non-dictator taste.

You think so? Well I suppose it’s not impossible. But improbable.

wewereliars · 29/04/2021 13:37

Cadger and Bodger perfect Grin

longwayoff · 29/04/2021 13:49

@UltimateFoole, great namesSmile I hope you won't mind if I refer to the couple in that way forever, Cadger and Bodger. I feel a cartoon coming on. Gather round children . . .

DGRossetti · 29/04/2021 13:52

I’m just amazed that the Blue Riband biscuit was still a thing. It was never an inspiring product. Also the fact that it was named for the award for the fastest Atlantic crossing by ship was one of those things deemed essential knowledge in my schooldays

How many people also insisted it was "Blue Ribbon" ?

Nastro Azzurro is a popular beer in Italy ...

Chersfrozenface · 29/04/2021 14:18

Cordon bleu cookery, of course.

Also Y Rhuban Glas, a prize awarded to vocal soloists since 1943 at the National Eisteddfod of Wales.

Though in livestock competitions, at least in Britain, the first place rosette is normally red and the second place rosette is blue.

For those who wanted a better class of squirrel.

Peregrina · 29/04/2021 14:34

Doesn't say much for his judgment or fiscal responsibility.

He expected the taxpayers to pay. Failing that, the suckers in the Tory party - the ordinary paid up members, not those buying favours.

For another squirrel, glas in Welsh can be either blue or green.

pointythings · 29/04/2021 16:00

@Chersfrozenface

Cordon bleu cookery, of course.

Also Y Rhuban Glas, a prize awarded to vocal soloists since 1943 at the National Eisteddfod of Wales.

Though in livestock competitions, at least in Britain, the first place rosette is normally red and the second place rosette is blue.

For those who wanted a better class of squirrel.

In the Netherlands the first place ribbon is orange (very patriotic). Second place is red, third is white, fourth is green and fifth is blue. Go figure.
DGRossetti · 29/04/2021 16:07

Interesting timing to suggest Snowdon be called by it's native name.

No argument from me.

www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/56925429

dontcallmelen · 29/04/2021 16:07

@wewereliars

Cadger and Bodger perfect Grin
So perfect.
UltimateFoole · 29/04/2021 16:25

Ha! Some things just name themselves. Grin

mustlovegin · 29/04/2021 16:31

As a friend said to me this week, they had started to watch alternative news channels to British based ones because she felt we had become so inward looking

Great idea! Let's start watching US or any other foreign news channels and get dragged into their political pandemonium and disregard our own UK affairs. Let's betray our own people. Excellent...

mustlovegin · 29/04/2021 16:34

I'm ashamed that the UK is cutting aid, with such stark consequences

We cannot afford to give money away

ListeningQuietly · 29/04/2021 16:37

Popping in to say hello
but really still too angry to type
www.lgcplus.com/politics/governance-and-structure/mhclg-reacts-to-remote-meetings-judgement-29-04-2021/

Dear local councils
pick which law we are forcing you to break
as you have to break one
Angry

Peregrina · 29/04/2021 16:46

We cannot afford to give money away

We can't now that Johnson has spaffed it at his chums.

TheElementsSong · 29/04/2021 16:53

"Betray" Hmm

DuncinToffee · 29/04/2021 17:13

I'm a lurker on these threads but thought this thread by Faisal Islam is worth sharing

NEW:

Defra Committee cross party MPs release bruising report on “considerable trade friction” & “substantial” new red tape leading to “substantive & enduring” post Brexit costs for food exporters.

  • Flatly contradicts in line 1, PM’s assertion of “no non tariff barriers”.

twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1387545230287777792?s=21

pointythings · 29/04/2021 17:37

Oh look, we've got a new visitor!

£130 million on vital aid for women's health is a drop in the ocean compared to what has been wasted on Brexit.

And saying that watching non-UK news sources is a betrayal of your country is really a new low for the Leavers. I'm almost mute with admiration.

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