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Westministenders: Unilateral Ignoring of WHO rules

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RedToothBrush · 09/03/2021 15:43

Where we are:

On 1st January the EU started to apply checks on all goods from the UK coming into the Union.

However the UK decided to take a slower route to this, and planned that on the 1st April the UK we would be carrying out Sanitary & Phytosanitary paperwork for animal and plant EU imports like meat and eggs.

Then on 1 July we'd implement a full customs check on all goods arriving into the UK from EU member states.

Obviously we've struggled with exports as we weren't ready for this and its fucked business. But ultimately the import side of things has yet to hit the shit fan still.

It sounds like there is likely to be issues with imports of food in particular, so there is talk of delaying our plan of checks until later in the day. There is concern that the reopening of pubs and restuarants which will up demands of imports occuring at the same time as checks are put in place is likely to be 'problematic'.

Remember we get 2/3 of fruit, veg and cheese from the EU. And half our wine. And to date these largely have only been affected by haulage issues NOT UK customs issues...

You might want to keep that in mind.

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DGRossetti · 28/03/2021 17:32

One of my Scottish chums has noted that Alba now have more MPs that Scottish Labour Smile

Clavinova · 28/03/2021 17:36

Not quite sure how you made that leap ? Where have I said testing is a waste of money?

Oh, yes - you thought the money had been spent on the App, not the testing.

DGRossetti · 28/03/2021 17:44

@Clavinova

Not quite sure how you made that leap ? Where have I said testing is a waste of money?

Oh, yes - you thought the money had been spent on the App, not the testing.

I'm looking at the UKs deaths and wondering where the hell the money went. Diamond studded coffins is the only answer Watson can come up with.
pointythings · 28/03/2021 17:56

It noted that the largest underspend was related to laboratories, machines and mass testing.

So what did the money go on then? Why was it not spent on laboratories, machines and mass testing when those were the things that were most needed?

ListeningQuietly · 28/03/2021 18:03

Dido Harding is still spaffing our money up against the wall with gay abandon
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/test-and-trace-hiring-lessons-learnt-analyst_uk_605ccc8bc5b66d30c74296bc

ListeningQuietly · 28/03/2021 18:05

I drove along the M20 this weekend (valid reasons)
The amount of concrete and disruption is just jawdropping
If there will ever be Brexit benefits for business
they will be outweighed by the mess

Peregrina · 28/03/2021 18:53

I find it hard to sympathise with Kent voters; they happily return Tories year after year, in some cases haven't had a non Tory MP since the First world war - so the Tories know that they can put a mediocrity up who will get in, and then will dutifully vote for whatever the Government wants. So what is happening in Kent is very much what a majority will have voted for. I agree that there was no detail to Johnson's Great Deal but they were happy with this.

DGRossetti · 28/03/2021 19:03

I find it hard to sympathise with Kent voters; they happily return Tories year after year

Which is precisely why their MPs have learned not to give a fuck about them. It's called "being taken for granted".

ListeningQuietly · 28/03/2021 19:40

Indeed, the people in Damian Green's constituency have consistently and significantly voted for the shower of shit they now face
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashford_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

Clavinova · 28/03/2021 20:21

BTW those flags that you are so keen on are nearly all made in China these days.

Clearly not all of them:

flagmakers.co.uk/
www.flyingcolours.org/
www.hampshireflag.co.uk/
the-flag-company.co.uk/
piggotts.co.uk/
www.stevensonflags.com/
flagmakers.co.uk/buy-flags/northern-ireland-hand-of-ulster/
www.reddragonflagmakers.co.uk/

Peregrina · 28/03/2021 22:27

It's sad - the businesses going under are ones making what you might call the small bespoke products. Never did Johnson say a truer word when he said 'Fuck Business'.

mathanxiety · 29/03/2021 05:20

although Joe Biden looks tiny sitting in that chair next to European Council president Charles Michel. Quite comical really;

What is funny about that photo of an online meeting? Biden isn't 'next to' Michel. It's a split screen.
Laughing at other people isn't a good look.

Something tells me you can't stand Ireland, @Clavinova. I can't quite put my finger on the reason.

Maybe it really galls you that Ireland was a net beneficiary in financial terms from EEC/EU membership? Maybe it galls you that after 800 years of wealth being sucked out of Ireland for Britain's benefit, some of it was finally paid back by means of UK contributions to the EU? Maybe you are just jealous that Ireland has a future and the UK does not.

Nothing else could possibly account for your red flag to a bull-style response to a comment on Ireland's integrated and organised approach to promoting global trade. Maybe the reminder that global trade is possible and profitable despite membership of the EU is something that gets your goat?

mathanxiety · 29/03/2021 05:24

BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany’s constitutional court said on Friday that the president may not sign off on legislation ratifying the European Union’s Recovery Fund as long as it was looking into an emergency appeal against the debt-financed investment plan.

The statement by Germany’s highest court, after both chambers of parliament ratified legislation this week, did not give a time frame when a legal decision could be expected.

Does this mean that individual states do actually enjoy national sovereignty?

Could it possibly be - say it ain't so! - that Leavers were misled?

mathanxiety · 29/03/2021 05:31

All of these statements are, to some extent, flawed...

LOL, that's not exactly a stinging rebuttal, is it?

mathanxiety · 29/03/2021 05:40

The anti-Union Flag comments seemed anti-British to me.

@Clavinova
You may or may not have read anything of the history of the Union of which you seem so proud. If you had, you might understand why the Union flag isn't exactly everybody's favourite.

I was only partly paying attention to tonight's 9 o'clock news in my neck of the woods, but I am sure I heard of ongoing efforts to get a gun control law on the books in Washington. There will be considerable horse trading in the weeks ahead.
www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-control-joe-biden-rational-gun-control-senate/

borntobequiet · 29/03/2021 08:22

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000tmbq

29/03/21 Mussel farm legal action against Defra; Reopening the countryside; Agricultural finances

I expect we will be told they were a) Remainers b) just after publicity c) should build their own purification plants (it's clearly explained why this is not an option) d) find new export markets, eg Fiji, Antarctica.

Peregrina · 29/03/2021 08:53

mathanxiety - I found your link telling us about the Irish Tricolor most interesting. It was much older than I thought and deliberately contained green and orange, separated by neutral white to promote the idea of peace.

The union jack always galled me, having grown up in Wales, because Wales wasn't represented. Ditto with the Royal Standard - there is definitely room on that for the Welsh Dragon.

The Cross of St George is now too readily associated with drunken football fans going on the rampage when their team loses abroad. Or going on the rampage when their team wins, which it does sometimes.

RedToothBrush · 29/03/2021 09:03

I'm anti-scroudrel.

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Peregrina · 29/03/2021 09:05

d) find new export markets, eg Fiji, Antarctica.

King Crabs are exported from the Arctic waters of Norway and airfreighted alive to Japan where they command a premium in their restaurants. So of course opportunities exist.

My picture of a King Crab won't post, sadly.

DGRossetti · 29/03/2021 10:22

@Peregrina

It's sad - the businesses going under are ones making what you might call the small bespoke products. Never did Johnson say a truer word when he said 'Fuck Business'.
From memory, the description of Britain as "a nation of shopkeepers" was actually an expression of Gallic admiration - typically misconstrued by the monoglot and monominded British press.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_shopkeepers

DGRossetti · 29/03/2021 10:25

@borntobequiet

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000tmbq

29/03/21 Mussel farm legal action against Defra; Reopening the countryside; Agricultural finances

I expect we will be told they were a) Remainers b) just after publicity c) should build their own purification plants (it's clearly explained why this is not an option) d) find new export markets, eg Fiji, Antarctica.

I am sure Clav has been tasked with trawling their Twitter to find that all important tweet from 2011 where they said "Enjoying some French wine" as proof they have a political agenda
DGRossetti · 29/03/2021 12:16

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/brexiteers-fundraising-1-million-to-fund-neutral-museum-of-brexit-261538

Brexiteers fundraising £1 million to fund ‘neutral’ Museum of Brexit

Peregrina · 29/03/2021 12:23

My impression is that Brexiters aren't too good when it comes to stumping up their own money.

If Brexit is a success it will speak for itself - we won't need posters telling us how badly the EU is doing, or how the reports about lost trade don't reflect the true picture.

We will hear about the massive influx of people willing to pick crops, (might not suit everyone though), we will hear about how businesses are expanding so rapidly with trade with the rest of the world that they can't get office space or enough staff or goods. As yet, we haven't heard that.

TheElementsSong · 29/03/2021 12:33

Brexiteers fundraising £1 million to fund ‘neutral’ Museum of Brexit

It can't cost that much to buy a load of Union Flags to drape on the walls, plus a load of toilet paper for the cleanup Wink

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