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Westminstenders: Disaster Capitalism.

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RedToothBrush · 31/01/2021 13:58

An 'interesting' week. To say the least.

It has highlighted the purpose, point and weaknesses of the EU. It has revealled that the Irish Border is an ongoing issue which can not be ignored. Not only is it causing shortages in NI but it also reminds us that a zero covid strategy for the UK can not be managed unilaterally; we are not New Zealand.

It shows up the changing geo-politics of leaving. We have applied to join the Asia-Pacific free trade pact just a day after Macron told us to chose out allies and reminded us that geography and history have always tied our fate to France.

The epic fuck up of the EU has lead a rallying cry of support for leaving... but covid is currently hiding much of the reality of the implications of Brexit which will yet come out in the wash.

Brexit and Covid are tied together as conjoined twins of economic disaster though. Once restrictions start to lift, the shit will start to hit the fan. The efforts on where to aportion blame will start but it won't be on Brexit. We've known this for some time. Brexit no longer is relevant. Except of course it is. But who is writing the winner's narrative? Things are as they have always been. There is no squirrel. The squirrel is thinking that Brexit and Covid are separate things when those in charge don't.

In terms of the vaccine suggest, I think its worth reflecting on why it was successful. Johnson played the vaccine procurement like a gambler, who bet on all the horses in order to ensure we got a winner. Throwing the kitchen sink at a problem which shut the entire economy down was always the safe option. Especially when it was also a pretty certain bet that there would be unequal rollout and a shortage when one was found. If you think about it in those terms, it easier to see how this has been a success for the government: if only one vaccine was successful, we'd be grateful we'd invested in so many options. If all the vaccines came in good we'd end up in a good place. It was a win:win strategy, and one that was not that hard to do. We now find that whilst we were cutting the International Aid Budget we were also working on soft power that excess vaccine stocks and production capability bring... I note here its actually much harder to pull off successfully if you are considerably larger like the EU because of the sheer numbers involved - the dynamics always favoured the UK and I think this probably was something the UK was aware of and was worked into strategic planning. Other things will be much harder to get such easy political wins on - not least because they still involve the economics of geography and that being smaller is typically a weakness not a strength in trading - vaccines and supply shortages are the ultimate exception not the rule. The rule is proven by the EU's politicking and the threat of a vaccine trade war.

Thus the Tory Party have seen Brexit and Covid as being intrinsically linked for some time. I don't think everyone else has quite managed to wrap their head around the fact that its near impossible at this stage to disentangle to two because of this mentality.

This current batch of Tories are disaster capitalists after all, and the twin of Brexit and Covid is a gift to their ambition.

I'll just remind you what the goal really is here. Remember Johnson's speech at the Tory Party Conference in October:
www.conservatives.com/news/boris-johnson-read-the-prime-ministers-keynote-speech-in-full

We have been through too much frustration and hardship just to settle for the status quo ante – to think that life can go on as it was before the plague; and it will not. Because history teaches us that events of this magnitude – wars, famines, plagues; events that affect the vast bulk of humanity, as this virus has – they do not just come and go.

They are more often than not the trigger for an acceleration of social and economic change, because we human beings will not simply content ourselves with a repair job.

He is fully signed up to the Cummings/Gove school of thought of burn it down and rebuild afresh.

The idea that he cares about sorting out and repairing the problems Brexit brings, miss the ultimate point: He doesn't want to.

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DGRossetti · 16/02/2021 12:15

@Peregrina

How would a tunnel from Scotland to Ireland get round the problem that NI is in the Customs Union and Scotland isn't (yet)?
Boris obsession with monumental building works is a clear manifestation of the need to over compensate that is a defining characteristic of the dictator. That's why he really is the British Trump.

Small Man Syndrome.

vera99 · 16/02/2021 12:44

He is a total short arse so the small man syndrome us a known known. Rishi though is actually tiny 5 6 shallow woman that I am..

Eve · 16/02/2021 12:45

@ListeningQuietly I have my year 1 Uni student coming home today, he been back since early January but is having a bit of a meltdown. Hes a social being and is really struggling , he also had high expectations of mixing and meeting new friends but hes had online lectures since day 1, limited interaction with any teaching staff , mixing in halls banned and is thinking about not going back.

He needs to come home and I need to help him get through this.

Peregrina · 16/02/2021 12:47

Still what Johnson lacks in height, he makes up for in girth.

It beats me why so many women seem to find him attractive - not physically and I haven't seen any evidence of a scintillating personality or of kindness or other desirable attributes.

DGRossetti · 16/02/2021 13:32

@Peregrina

Still what Johnson lacks in height, he makes up for in girth.

It beats me why so many women seem to find him attractive - not physically and I haven't seen any evidence of a scintillating personality or of kindness or other desirable attributes.

So what attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels ?
ListeningQuietly · 16/02/2021 13:37

Ministers back tracking AGAIN after being shown up as uncaring bastards
www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/16/jo-whiley-offered-covid-vaccine-before-sister-in-care-home-with-diabetes

DGRossetti · 16/02/2021 13:40

[quote ListeningQuietly]Ministers back tracking AGAIN after being shown up as uncaring bastards
www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/16/jo-whiley-offered-covid-vaccine-before-sister-in-care-home-with-diabetes[/quote]
Seems as good a place as any ...

Westminstenders: Disaster Capitalism.
JustAnotherPoster00 · 16/02/2021 15:39

Did any one just feel that chill and stale odour as a crypt door was opened and its denizen brought forward again? Its actually a good piece

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/16/keir-starmer-leadership-urgent-course-correction-labour

It makes sense for those who want to see Labour return to power to examine the lessons of Tony Blair’s electoral victories: he was, after all, the only Labour leader to have won an election in half a century. Not such a surprise, then, that Keir Starmer has asked Peter Mandelson for help, according to reports at the weekend. As one the strategic architects of Starmer’s successful leadership campaign, however, I believe that after a year in the job he appears to have learned the wrong lessons and needs to alter course.

DGRossetti · 16/02/2021 15:50

Did any one just feel that chill and stale odour as a crypt door was opened and its denizen brought forward again?

Any M.R. James fans around ?

Someone has just said Count Magnus name again, and another lock has slipped from the sarcophagus ....

borntobequiet · 16/02/2021 17:59

@Peregrina

How would a tunnel from Scotland to Ireland get round the problem that NI is in the Customs Union and Scotland isn't (yet)?
Ah well, we know it wouldn’t but I’m sure plenty of people would be happy to believe it would. You can just hear Gove: “We can easily avoid having a border in the Irish Sea by going under it.”
borntobequiet · 16/02/2021 18:03

I do think those unicorn trains sound fun and should be seriously considered. People love cute kiddie trains. Look at the success of Thomas the Tank Engine.

borntobequiet · 16/02/2021 18:05

Well I’m on a roll. (Some) women find Johnson attractive because he’s an utter shit. Sad but true.

Peregrina · 16/02/2021 18:43

We have a tunnel to France. Does that mean we don't have a border with France? I think we should be told.

HannibalHayes · 16/02/2021 18:44

"You just fill out a form" update...

DGRossetti · 16/02/2021 19:03

@HannibalHayes

Or have an EU citizenship (noted in bold on my cv).
SabrinaThwaite · 16/02/2021 19:16

DH and DS both highlight their EU passports on CVs and responses to tenders.

🤞 seems to work.

ListeningQuietly · 16/02/2021 20:06

The UK passport used to be one of the most powerful in the world
and now .......

SabrinaThwaite · 16/02/2021 20:13

@ListeningQuietly

The UK passport used to be one of the most powerful in the world and now .......
Except when you were in countries where UK and US passports made you targets. An alternative passport was recommended.
ListeningQuietly · 16/02/2021 20:14

Sabrina
I had to avoid those Wink

TatianaBis · 16/02/2021 20:19

Boris is most certainly not a millionaire.

SabrinaThwaite · 16/02/2021 20:20

They did tend to be lucrative though.

But even in less difficult countries it was useful to have a second passport - the kind of ones where you didn’t need to be involved in an incident just in the general vicinity to get implicated.

SOP was to go to the airport and leave.

HannibalHayes · 16/02/2021 20:36

@TatianaBis

Boris is most certainly not a millionaire.
After all the dodgy kickbacks he'll be getting from giving all those billion pound contracts out to his contacts?

He certainly will be...

TatianaBis · 16/02/2021 20:39

Potentially now he’s PM he will make a mint. But he’s only been in the job a year.

lonelyplanetmum · 16/02/2021 23:03

Why is Boris not a millionaire? The 5 storey Grade II listed former matrimonial home sold for £3.35m - £400,000 less than the asking price. Assuming he got 50% of that..?