Westminstenders: Move Your Business To The EU

[RedToothBrush]

The government is advising people to move their businesses to the EU to avoid UK taxation and red tape.

Why would you do this?

For the interests of the uk?

Or is it about power WITHIN the uk?

😅😅😅😅😅

This is his time to sit back and be a diplomat.

Johnson doesn't know what the word diplomat means.

Newsthump gave me a good laugh. It's how a good few posters are behaving on other threads.

Johnson doesn't know what the word diplomat means

Yeah thats true normally. I think maybe though he's being well advised. And he's playing to an international audience and also looking to impress Biden.

Yes, he may well be looking to impress Biden, but I am quite sure that Biden and Harris have long memories. So we shall see.

I am going to watch the application to the Asia Pacific free trade pac with interest (also will talk to family in NZ as well)...... its will be interesting, I think from the NZ perspective they are always happy to trade with anyone, however will be cautious about the UK throwing there weight around. They (NZ from my perspective quite possibly Australia, quite possibly Singapore as well) are very aware of the emperialistic overtones in UK politics and won't want any hint of that.
Johnson did a trip to NZ as Foreign Secretary- he did dinners with business "leaders" - my brother went to one. His speech apparently more than touched on empirial ties - everyone very polite, but overwhelming feeling was he could fuck off with that attitude. All a bit cloth earred.....

however will be cautious about the UK throwing there weight around.

Wasn't that one reason EEA had to be discounted - the existing members really didn't want a member with a proven history of disrupting trading clubs fucking up their sweet deal.

How would the UK fit into any organisation of much smaller countries ? Where it's always going to be disproportionately large ?

If I were an existing member I'd want super majorities all over the voting procedures, and some sort of quick remedy for expelling troublemakers.

@Peregrina

Yes, he may well be looking to impress Biden, but I am quite sure that Biden and Harris have long memories. So we shall see.

Impress Biden? Honestly the contortions people get into on here.

Alternatively, if the UK does join, there may be some familiar faces around the table. One again, 65 million vs. 450 million isn't a fair fight ...

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1383906/eu-news-brexit-trade-deal-cptpp-boris-johnson-australia-us-joe-biden-spt

THE EU has been invited to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) - the free trade area with 111 countries the UK is hoping to enter - by Australian Senator Eric Abetz.

It wasn't a perfectly legal act by the EU.......

Which bit was illegal?

Article 16 is there to be invoked - it's part of the treaty - what did they do that was illegal?

There were several problems with it @FrankieStein402

1. Not warning GB or Ireland
2. It , in effect, imposes a border on the island of Ireland, something they slagged off GB for trying to do. Not a step to take lightly . Action of last resort.
3. There appear to be newbies at the Commission who don't realise how fucking dangerous it is to do that. Von Der Leyen or people around her don't get it
4. It hands a moral victory to GB - as I often say at work: the only thing worse than dealing with a bastard is a bastard who has a good point. You must acknowledge that and respond properly.

Thanks for German info @DGRossetti

Guardian: Johnson poised to appoint Paul Dacre chair of Ofcom

More on the AZ vaccine

twitter.com/adamjohnritchie/status/1355136430402580482?s=21

Dave as head of ofcom has to be one of the most distressing things I can think of..... ofcom is pretty useless anyway - but this is dangerous for democracy

@FrankieStein402

Given that parliament passed a bill that illegally breached the withdrawal argument - I don't think we have any moral standing to complain about the invocation of article 16 - which was a perfectly legal act by the EC :)

Don’t go into politics. Please don’t.

@FrankieStein402

> It wasn't a perfectly legal act by the EU.......

Which bit was illegal?

Article 16 is there to be invoked - it's part of the treaty - what did they do that was illegal?

Due process wasn't followed, so arguably wasn't legal.

THE EU has been invited to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP)

What? EU invited to join? But the UK is having to ask? Or has someone also asked the UK? It's not going to be 'Welcome to the club' though is it? It's going to be what can you offer us? Do we need that?

Due process not followed but a Treaty still in a sort of limbo with the European Parliament not having yet discussed it an the member states ratifying it. All a hopeless mess.

@Peregrina

THE EU has been invited to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP)

What? EU invited to join? But the UK is having to ask? Or has someone also asked the UK? It's not going to be 'Welcome to the club' though is it? It's going to be what can you offer us? Do we need that?

The Express article was from the 14th too. Making it look like the UK only wanted in after the EU were invited.

@RedToothBrush

Guardian: Johnson poised to appoint Paul Dacre chair of Ofcom

Dear God. But no surprise I suppose.

Food for thought ...

Today is Tax Return deadline day
except it isn't

COVID legislation that keeps local Government going expires on 7th May
nobody knows if it will be extended
and if it is not, how will things be kept running

Elections - already delayed since last year - are due in May.
Decisions have to be made in the next 4 weeks
and if the UK ceases to have elections
it calls many things into question

THe Census starts in 4 weeks - logistics rely on Local Authorities providing accurate data to staffing teams
(see above)

So much is being allowed to drift
its scary

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/4152254-Westminstenders-Disaster-Capitalism?watched=1
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@ParadiseIsland

All the discussion about ‘our’ vaccine, their vaccines makes gently chuckle.

The reality is that vaccines are not the property of a country or government unless developed by research labs entirely funded by said government.
All of those vaccines have research labs in one country, funding from the company in another country and production lines yet again in another place. It’s the strength of being part of a huge group such as the EU. It also means that there is no possibility to go all nationalist about it.

Plus of course, there is the other big ethical question... why is it ok for one country to just hog all the vaccine for itself (like the U.K. is doing - apparently having put a mark on 100 millions of vaccines, Way above what it needs) and leave poorer countries with nothing. Sometimes the WHO had warned we should avoid....

I've spoken to amazon and they agreed that it's unfair for goods you paid for to be hogged by you so 75% of your orders will be sent to the 3rd world.

I almost hope that people get their wish about giving way the vaccine. I'd love to see the look on your faces you realise what the future will be without it.

The world is drowning in people who don't think anything through.

Brexit. Not a problem. ok.