Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Brexit

Westministenders: Biden Time Til The Penny Drops

999 replies

RedToothBrush · 16/01/2021 16:03

Next week sees a changing in the international guard with implications for the UK in a post Brexit world where we are starting to realise we are very much on our own and frozen out.

The government were able to cosy up with Trump much to the EU's distaste, but Biden is a whole different kettle of fish. Assuming of course that things go to plan next week and the USA don't end up with an almighty bloody mess on their hands.

The political landscape change means the US will become much more inward looking to try and sort its own shit out (amongst domestic terrorism and having run out of vaccine supplies with no stock available from Pfizer until June top of the agenda) and what little international diplomacy there is, is highly unlikely to be centred around the desparate needs of the UK.

The EU meanwhile are largely happy with their lot over the Brexit deal and to leave the UK to their fish stew. With the sole exception of Ireland, who strangely enough the EU and US will probably be very willing to help - putting the Irish into a unique bridging position between the two which they can use to capitalise on.

We will be schooled on the benefits of being in the EU the hard way it seems. The Thatcherite dream of frictionless trade has been well and truly krilled off. The future beckons with the beaucratic mess and spiralling cost of haulage to Europe making it financially not worthwhile even for big firms but especially for small businesses. A quick look at the cost of smart phones is revealling, and tells a story. Prior to the 1st you could buy from the EU. Now the only place shipping to the UK is through Hong Kong, with all the extra associated charges and customs. The price has gone up considerably. Already.

The fact that the government are only just starting to stay they are herring about problems and will endevour to resolve them just doesn't cut it. They were told of the issues years ago. They chose to ignore them. They had better things to do. Like go for a nice holiday at their second home in Europe or fancy dinner at an authetic French restuarant. Strangely enough for various reasons these pastimes are currently off the menu its starting to dawn just how we are stuck between a rock and a hard plaice as a consequence.

You didn't need to be a brain sturgeon to see this coming. It is exactly what was predicted. Queues of lorries as post Christmas trade picks up and stock piles run out, but also empty shelves where things like jigsaws, fresh vegetable, cheese, electricals and paper used to be. The sunlight uplands and promise of brexit opportunities are turning out to be a load of old pollocks. It will take years for some sectors to rebalance and adjust. If they make it through and don't end up on the rocks.

It is a turtle disaster for the economy. On top of the covid.

Even the pro-leave fishermen are starting to realise that the deal was a load of carp. And want to dump their rotten langoustines outside Downing Street. Their fish are far from happy and they have finally haddock with the government. It doesn't help that the fisheries minister has openly said she didn't read the deal because she was too busy organising a nativity. Which sums up the whole situation in a perfect way. Its not even incompetence, its total indifference and apathy.

The Penny will drop as the Pound does. We will learn that its better to be a big fish in a medium pond than a medium fish in a huge pond simply because of how the food chain works.

The sharks are slowly circling for Johnson and once the heat is off, and we get to the stage were the messaging doesn't read like 'We want covid to kill you whilst we have a Tory Bunfight' as it doesn't sit terribly well with the public.

The dust is settling and who does Johnson play pin the blame on now? This deal isn't the result of sabotage by remainers. This deal is his and his alone to own. Isolated at No10 Johnson is likely to start to feel increasingly like he has no friends. He has a whalely big job ahead of him to turn things around a plot a new course ahead to the future for HMS Britannia.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
23
Clavinova · 17/01/2021 21:30

wewereliars

Did you run out of food in the end? You were warning everyone about food shortages.

Clavinova · 17/01/2021 21:32

TonMoulin

Next year according to RedToothBrush's c&p.

Peregrina · 17/01/2021 21:37

You are just rambling now Clavinova.

We have noticed the shops being low on certain things. Some could be Covid based. We will have to see when Covid is finally over.

ListeningQuietly · 17/01/2021 21:42

I paid darned good money to get my purple passport
I had to swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen
something people born here appear to be exempt from
I am an internationalist
I believe in the worth of the UN (of which I have memories that predate the UK joining the EEC)
I believe in the merit of NATO
I believe in the value of the EU
I believe that things like the WTO and the WHO and the Paris Accord
will make the lives of all beings (plant, animal, other) better

and that arrogant twat governments that turn their backs on cooperation
deserve the shit that will land on their heads

Clavinova · 17/01/2021 21:45

DGRossetti

The first reader comment in your link;

The problem was misinterpretation both by airlines in UK and in Spain by immigration/border guards or due to their failure to read amendments to their own operation manuals.
When the problem emerged the Spanish embassy in UK quickly issued both a memo clearly explaining the rules along with pictures of documents which were valid for travel

OchonAgusOchonO · 17/01/2021 21:54

@DGRossetti - www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/brexit-deported-northern-ireland-ex-19620121

Maybe it's a bit mean but I found that amusing. All they had to do was get an Irish passport to avoid all that hassle. Even Ian Paisley Jnr. was advising constituents to do that. Obviously very, very died in the wool unionists.

wewereliars · 17/01/2021 22:08

Is your medication wearing off Clavinova? Maybe problems with supply issues? I have never posted about food shortages

RedToothBrush · 17/01/2021 22:17

This remind you of anyone.

Anyway one of Biden's first policies appears to be a 'Buy American' Campaign.

This is worrying the Canadians
www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-usa-idUSKBN29M0KL?taid=6004b49146b67f000161f78e&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

There is barely a peep in the British press about this.

I wonder why?

Westministenders: Biden Time Til The Penny Drops
OP posts:
Peregrina · 17/01/2021 22:20

Perhaps Clavinova you could cut out what are just smart arse cut n' pastes about travel, since I have a DD who had difficulty getting back to her country of residence. In her case after about 15 minutes at the check in desk, someone thought to make a phone call and she got on the plane.

Problems at the other end too. And yes, I 100% blame Johnson for arsing around and not getting a deal until the last moment. Had he negotiated in a timely fashion and in good faith, these sorts of details would have been sorted out months earlier.

It wasn't helped by the flight she was due to leave on before the New Year being cancelled.

We know that you are a Johnson groupie as well as being a fanatical Leaver. Let us see what happens when Johnson's shit deal or the ERGs games with people's lives affect you personally.

Blacktothepink · 17/01/2021 22:31

Clav...ignore, don’t engage...don’t speak...

Peregrina · 17/01/2021 22:33

Clav...ignore, don’t engage...don’t speak...

Too true, I should have done.

Shrillharridan · 17/01/2021 22:36

🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿👀
Look at my lovely squirrels!
With their mouths full of nuts...

PawFives · 17/01/2021 23:19

Belated PMK
🐟&🐿 (sounds like a bad pub name!)

DrBlackbird · 17/01/2021 23:34

Very belated PMK.

Funnily enough I was just wondering when some erstwhile Brexiteer / Johnson groupie would come on to triumph over food still being on shelves no thanks to Gove et al

And sure enough this is exactly what I find on this page Wink because, you know, we'll all know exactly what the fall out is from the trade deal and end of transition within the first 3 weeks of life outside the EU.

prettybird · 17/01/2021 23:47

Just listening to all the headline news about the over 70s in England now starting to get jabs (the word is "jags" in Scotland Wink) and everyone by September or earlier and I had an uncharitable thought....

....is it a coincidence that the growing consequences of the EU Deal are starting to be felt by businesses and even the general public - and the bad news needed to be drowned out? Hmm

niynycachu · 17/01/2021 23:47

DGR I managed to get get a minute and a half into that colonisation video before screaming. Surely us Welsh were the first to be invaded! (and still colonised)

Peregrina · 17/01/2021 23:56

Funnily enough my surgery asked me if I wanted the jab yesterday. I don't know why, I am not 70 yet, and not in a priority group, so I said I was happy to wait. The lady who phoned seemed delighted with this.

DH who is already in his 70s hasn't been offered yet. Most odd.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 18/01/2021 01:31

@niynycachu

DGR I managed to get get a minute and a half into that colonisation video before screaming. Surely us Welsh were the first to be invaded! (and still colonised)
I thought exactly the same
mathanxiety · 18/01/2021 05:01

Truly brill OP, RTB

And fwiw, there are a lot of Lamberts in County Wexford in the SE of Ireland, the area most heavily Normanised way back when.

Sostenueto · 18/01/2021 06:17

Why headlines seem to think everything is fine everybody getting vaccine by Summer when in fact you have no immunity until you have second jab so injecting everyone once does not equal open up economy fully. But no doubt the tests in No 10 will.

Sostenueto · 18/01/2021 06:18

Twats not tests

QueenOfThorns · 18/01/2021 07:24

@Sostenueto

Why headlines seem to think everything is fine everybody getting vaccine by Summer when in fact you have no immunity until you have second jab so injecting everyone once does not equal open up economy fully. But no doubt the tests in No 10 will.
Where did you get this from? If there was no immunity after the first jab, we wouldn’t be doing it this way. The UK isn’t the only country taking this approach!
Sostenueto · 18/01/2021 07:34

Not full immunity till u have second jab that is why people being urged to continue with face hands distance etc. Why don't think yr safe after first jab? Because a) they don't know how long any immunity will last 2) they been ramming down our throats the necessity for two jabs 3) you can still catch Covid even if u had the jab.. Having the jab does not equate to opening up country. We will have to live with virus for many years to come or until the rest of the world controls the virus too. There is no normal life just yet. And the headlines are giving public wrong idea and false security.

Sostenueto · 18/01/2021 07:56

I can just imagine what is going to happen once the country opens up again. The people will be off around the world ( those than can afford it not the poor) again bringing different strains back in to country resilient against vacinne, people cramming eateries pubs clubs shops not following guidelines traveling from one end of country to other mixing households partying going whoop whoop we had the vacinne we are untouchable blah blah blah! Economy economy economy! Yea riiiiggghhht! Then 6 months down the line their immunity wears off and we will be back to over a 1000 deaths a day.

Swipe left for the next trending thread