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Brexit

So, how long will it be before we join again?

290 replies

BlackForestCake · 01/01/2021 00:57

Will you be supporting the campaign to join the EU?

It will be good for business to do away with a lot of pointless red tape at customs, and our people will benefit from being able to travel, study and work in 28 countries.

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Flyonawalk · 01/01/2021 01:04

I would support rejoining but can’t see the U.K. ever being allowed back in. Every other EU country would have to allow it, and that will never happen. Also the U.K. would have to accept the Euro as currency. Rejoining is a lovely idea but unrealistic I’m afraid.

sally067 · 01/01/2021 01:09

Customs Union and Single Market by 2029 - possibly a lot sooner if the economy is ruined.

Full EU Membership by 2034 at the latest.

I believe that at the moment Labour's rule book means it cannot form electoral pacts and so runs candidates in every constituency, this is being looked at by a working group and I suspect Starmer will remove it. This will be the key because FPTP is not fit for purpose in a modern democracy, it's crazy that 58% of people did not vote for the Tories in the last election yet they have a huge majority.

He will then be able to form pacts with the SNP, LD's and Greens. He'll offer Sturgeon devolution plus for her backing and that will be the start of it I imagine.

I think the big question will be, will we have to adopt the Euro and Schengen in order to rejoin? I suspect we will as we won't have anywhere near the influence and soft power we have now.

Pippin2028 · 01/01/2021 01:12

I was really against Brexit to begin with, I still didn't really want it to happen but now it has, I think we need to make the most of it. I think if we were ever to rejoin it wouldn't be for another 10-20 years and the process would be so complex. This has really divided everyone but scaremongering will not help anyone. If all goes well for the UK, other EU countries may also wish to go it alone, if its a disaster for us, the EU can be super smug! But we won't really know the consequences for at least 5 years, plus every country will be dealing with a major fallout from covid.

BolloxtoGender · 01/01/2021 01:15

Never.

CayrolBaaaskin · 01/01/2021 01:17

Yes

partyatthepalace · 01/01/2021 01:18

Bout 15 years

Tippexy · 01/01/2021 01:20

Never!! 🇬🇧🥳🇬🇧🥳🇬🇧🥳🇬🇧

MountainDweller · 01/01/2021 01:21

I hope so, I live in the EU and am so depressed about it. I think the only way to get over how much my life will change is to campaign to rejoin, otherwise life will just be unbearable.

PinkSpring · 01/01/2021 01:22

NEVER

macshoto · 01/01/2021 01:23

Hopefully in my lifetime (49 now)...

RMRM · 01/01/2021 01:25

We will have to get closer in our relationship, but I can't see us being let back in any time soon, the massive wankers we are. We'd only send them a load of UKIP style dickheads the first elections they had. Better off without us. They can crack on without the Brexit morons disrupting everything.

FinallyFluid · 01/01/2021 01:26

Within the next ten years, however they will make the UK pay a very heavy price and that will include adopting the Euro.

sally067 · 01/01/2021 01:28

@Tippexy

Never!! 🇬🇧🥳🇬🇧🥳🇬🇧🥳🇬🇧
I do wonder how all those currently sitting basking in the glory of their Brexit utopia will feel when their children and grandchildren grow up and start asking serious questions about why Britain isn't in the EU and why their grandparents voted to deny them the freedoms and relative financial security being in the EU gave them. I'd be fuming if I was in my teens and had now been robbed of the chance to live, love, learn and work in various European cities.

I suspect over the course of the next decade the generational war is going to get pretty nasty.

RMRM · 01/01/2021 01:45

My teens are furious with their grandparents. I'm not all that happy with them either tbh.

Heyahun · 01/01/2021 01:48

Doubt the EU would be welcoming yis back tbh

cyclingmad · 01/01/2021 01:52

Your kids haven't been robbed they csn go live and work in the EU it might require abit more to do so. Jesus chill out

RMRM · 01/01/2021 01:55

Oh right, so if there's a job going in the EU, who are they going to offer it to? The EU citizen or the one that needs "a bit more work" to be eligible?

It has already started happening, non-EU need not apply.

Pyewhacket · 01/01/2021 02:01

Never.

Heyahun · 01/01/2021 02:03

Lolz have you ever applied for a working visa in another country @cyclingmad?? It’s expensive, isn’t an easy process and you can’t just rock up and get one - loads of countries will have points based systems and criteria!

Whereas before you could just fly to another EU country and stay there for as long as you like, get a job etc -

sally067 · 01/01/2021 02:06

@cyclingmad

Your kids haven't been robbed they csn go live and work in the EU it might require abit more to do so. Jesus chill out
A bit more work? Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a work visa? It can cost thousands in legal fees and take months.

When I was 17 I was on holiday with my mates in Alicante. Decided not to return and got a job in a hotel and bar so I could stay out there. In the end I spent 4 years working and travelling around Spain and Portugal.

It was amazing and shaped my life. UK kids won't have that opportunity now, your average Spanish hotel or retail shop is hardly going to spend thousands so they can take on a British kid on 14 Euros an hour.

notangelinajolie · 01/01/2021 02:09

@BlackForestCake

Will you be supporting the campaign to join the EU?

It will be good for business to do away with a lot of pointless red tape at customs, and our people will benefit from being able to travel, study and work in 28 countries.

Nope.
NiceGerbil · 01/01/2021 02:12

I don't think we will in the near or medium future. Not for a very very long time. Like 25 years+.

I think the UK will break up first. The situation on the island of Ireland is untenable. And I think the Scots may well leave.

AlexaShutUp · 01/01/2021 02:12

I'm so glad that my parents campaigned for remain. I can only imagine what damage it would have done to their relationship with their grandchildren if they had voted to leave. I'd have found it very hard to forgive them.

I will definitely be supporting a campaign to re-join, and hope it happens sooner rather than later. I hope that the EU will have us back, but time will tell. Sadly, we know that we won't ever have the chance to re-join on the favourable terms that we enjoyed previously, but beggars can't be choosers and we will probably be so desperate that we'll just have to accept whatever terms they offer us.

Mistigri · 01/01/2021 09:35

Uk won't rejoin the EU in its current form because the union won't survive Brexit.

The NI protocol already makes NI semi-detached and a de facto outpost of the EU. It will be back in the EU in my lifetime and probably before I retire.

Really hard to believe that this doesn't give wings to Scottish nationalism - the special status of both NI and Gibraltar must surely look very attractive if you are a Scottish remainer who has previously voted for unionist parties.

GCAcademic · 01/01/2021 09:38

@Mistigri

Uk won't rejoin the EU in its current form because the union won't survive Brexit.

The NI protocol already makes NI semi-detached and a de facto outpost of the EU. It will be back in the EU in my lifetime and probably before I retire.

Really hard to believe that this doesn't give wings to Scottish nationalism - the special status of both NI and Gibraltar must surely look very attractive if you are a Scottish remainer who has previously voted for unionist parties.

I think this is right. Parts of the U.K. will rejoin. England won’t be one of them.