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And so it is done....! 🙌

Finally!

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Merry Xmas!!

The truth is Brandy that you will never own your shit. Your triumphalism over a decision that has divided and broken our nation makes me sick. I wish you had an ounce of humility to recognise the feelings of those who did not vote for this. But you clearly don’t and never will.

Anymore than remainers will for those who voted no in the two referendums in the 70s; and for those of us who were opposed to Maastricht and Lisbon.

No remainer has yet managed to tell me where the EU will be in a decade, and acknowledged what the pitfalls of staying in would have been. The EU is an ITO with a ratchet. It is like Hotel California, but thankfully we have checked out, and will tonight begin the long process of leaving and unpicking the threads that bind us legally to the EU.

Yes, we are divided as a nation, but we were anyway, but I don't think we are broken. Those fault lines also run in other EU member states; Belgium, France, Spain..we aren't the only ones.

Given the momentous night I thought there’d be more Brexiteers here. But just the four of you. Guess the others are already slinking away....

I doubt they're slinking away. More like not engaging because there's no point, unless they want to spend their time engaging in a circular argument. Particularly on New year's Eve 🤷‍♀️🍾

The truth is Brandy that you will never own your shit

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Your triumphalism over a decision that has divided and broken our nation makes me sick

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I wish you had an ounce of humility

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But you clearly don’t and never will.

True, true 🤷🏻‍♀️🇬🇧🍾😍

Given the momentous night I thought there’d be more Brexiteers here.

I'm not in the least surprised tbh

They were hounded off the threads ages ago by nasty trolls 😟

Brexiteers wouldn't gather here to celebrate anyway. There wouldn't be much point. There are other forums and zoom parties for that.

Thank you RedTreesRedtrees! And you are right for me not to rise to it. And to be fair most people who voted brexit (as most remainers) are a lot less triumphalist than this ... this thread is after all for the die hard don’t spoil the thread with consequences/ my family is fine and any impact on yours is inconsequential.

Yup for the person who asked end of freedom of movement has disrupted actual plans of mine. Stuff does happen ... but at least I know that @Toptotoeunicolour family still can make their plans with no problems and that is wonderful for them

**Bell hathor
**Funny how when areas in the red wall asked for assistance due to a massive increase in immigration putting a strain on local resources they were ignored.

Completely agree but I think you might find it was a decade of a government of the Tory party and most of politicians who are now in power who have really ignored the red wall and not the eu.
Anyway the eu and European project made a brilliant scapegoat. no eu to blame from now on so let’s see this government to deliver on their promises. if the European project and immigration was the main source of the red wall’s issues which certainly was a view which vote leave pushed to win the referendum (see blogs of Dominic Cummings) it all gets solved
quickly by the wonder that is brexit. Anyway happy brexit and let’s hope that everything that was promised is delivered (there seems to be a shedload of paperwork from tomoore for the PM promise of no tariff barriers but don’t worry I already know the answer - it is just moaning business / It isn’t real / they can find new markets / who cares / not the responsibility of anyone on this thread

@Dg390 😂

@Kaliorphia oh, they’re elsewhere 😂

Happy new year RedTreesRedTrees and everyone else. Toys to tidy and a quiet new year to have! Brexit and covid will still be here tomorrow

The moment has finally arrived!

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(Long time lurker)

You may find that if Labour can't change their views the people who swapped camps in the last Election decide that it's too greater risk to swap back.
I thought Labour couldn't be any more unvoteable, but it seems Boris wins again, love him or hate him he has a personality and it's one that gets votes.

I will leave you now to your ‘celebrations’. I’m not usually one to leave a party early, but this gathering has all the atmosphere of a wake (and you’re supposedly the ‘winners’). Except there are no winners are there....

Don't you think they are Redtrees? That's bizarre. Why on earth would you think they wouldn't be tonight of all nights. The Brexiteers here aren't the sum of all Brexiteers are they. And clearly there was a lot of them, otherwise they wouldn't have won the vote. Of course Brexiteers will be celebrating tonight. I was invited to a celebration myself which is a large organised online event through a different forum. But if you prefer to think that those things aren't happening because they haven't chosen to hang out with a bunch of remainers on Mumsnet, then that's up to you.

Happy new year.

Sat home, having a nap, the zoom party tonight with friends, there is no where to go and it's too cold anyway.

I will leave you now to your ‘celebrations’

Excellent idea......

I'll be about for a while, been neck deep in a huge craft project but the Arms was calling me 👋🏼🍸🥇🧗🏼‍♀️
That last emoji is me climbing brexit mountain, soon to reach the glorious summit and gaze across this beautiful country, finally free of the EU shackles.

Nice to see some old faces.
👋👋 evening gcats.
I will be celebrating on zoom and have the champagne chilling. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

Hi Yellow and Brandy and any one else.

Dg390 You can still live, work and travel in the EU. Nationals of other 3rd countries manage to do so successfully. Your option to do so hasn't been removed.

It was never supposed to be freedom of Movement of People, but of Labour; so you could move to work.

“Dg390 You can still live, work and travel in the EU. Nationals of other 3rd countries manage to do so successfully. Your option to do so hasn't been removed.”

Tumbleweed...

No remainer has yet managed to tell me where the EU will be in a decade, and acknowledged what the pitfalls of staying in would have been

Have we left because something we don't like might happen at some point in the future? My husband might run off with the au pair in ten years but surely it would be an overreaction to leave him now, I'd prefer to wait and see if it actually happens.

@PMcGintysGoat no much better to leave now and take back control 😂

[quote RedtreesRedtrees]@PMcGintysGoat no much better to leave now and take back control 😂[/quote]
But then I'd need to pay the costs of the divorce, downsize etc - all entirely unnecessarily.

Yes @pmmcgintysgoat you might lose your house and your money and various rights, but on the plus side you’ll be free to go fishing whenever you want without having to tell your husband

Just checking back in to wish you all a happy new year. Some of us have to eat!

This thread is the acme of irritating. People who would never choose to move from their home town, but want the option of freedom of labour... and people who have lived in several countries and seen for themselves that the grass isn't really greener anywhere else, bandying playground insults to please their fan club, while demanding reasons and justification for the choices that the other side have made.

I think my posts over the last two evenings set out much of what I think and hope will be the benefits of leaving a centralised controlling bureaucracy.... and there were more I didn't get around to. But, even offered reason, there was no serious engagement and discussion. (Aria came close for a bit.) Just a barrage of insults. And, no, I am not expecting the sunny uplands to materialise tomorrow morning, or any other morning very soon. And another no, I'm not thrilled with our current political shower either, but (fingers crossed) I hope we can do better in years to come, without trying to apply standard rules to 450 million people across 27 countries in the vain hope that one size can fit all.