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To feel so angry that we'll be getting a no deal Brexit now on top of all this shit

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puffinsseagulls · 16/10/2020 14:19

Australia deal = no deal effectively. Quite annoyed with the PM smirking though his speech as well. Seemingly uncaring about what he's inflicting on people. I do believe people in 2016 weren't voting for no deal. I know it's happening anyway, but it's a cheek to try to blame the EU for it imo.

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unmarkedbythat · 17/10/2020 18:11

Ah, the line leavers on reddit are taking, apart from the ones doubling down to say no deal is great, is that this is remainers fault for not embracing Brexit. I've seen a few leavers say honestly this is not what they voted for and that they are appalled but my sympathy is low on stock so I am keeping it for those of us who didn't vote for this shitshow.

Roussette · 17/10/2020 18:13

How, in the name of all that is holy, can this mess be remainers fault for not embracing Brexit?!
That's a good one!

Porcupineinwaiting · 17/10/2020 18:31

the economy can't be hit much more

Of course it bloody can. Angry Lots of sectors that haven't been hit by coronavirus will be damaged by Brexit. Farming for one, the car industry, manufacturing. Life isnt just about pubs and restaurants.

ListeningQuietly · 17/10/2020 18:42

Anybody who thinks the economy can't be hit much more
clearly does not understand supply chains.

People can self isolate due to COVID
so long as cheap food keeps arriving in the supermarket delivery vans.

When that stops .......

Janegrey333 · 17/10/2020 18:57

@Roussette

How, in the name of all that is holy, can this mess be remainers fault for not embracing Brexit?! That's a good one!
That utterly twisted nonsense from those who got us into this mess. I will never embrace Brexit. Sometimes I think the franchise should be reviewed for some.
Figmentofmyimagination · 17/10/2020 18:57

Johnson is a twat. This is 100% his fault. His and Gove and cummings and all those other twats who lied and manipulated their way here. We must never forget who made this happen.

Janegrey333 · 17/10/2020 18:58

That is

Janegrey333 · 17/10/2020 18:58

@Figmentofmyimagination

Johnson is a twat. This is 100% his fault. His and Gove and cummings and all those other twats who lied and manipulated their way here. We must never forget who made this happen.
A plague on all their houses.
Pumperthepumper · 17/10/2020 19:12

@Figmentofmyimagination

Johnson is a twat. This is 100% his fault. His and Gove and cummings and all those other twats who lied and manipulated their way here. We must never forget who made this happen.
It’s just so multi-layered though, there’s loads of people to blame. Cameron for being too weak to lead his own party? May for putting party before country? Corbyn for being selfish? Labour/Lib Dem for being useless? Farage for being a lying, racist piece of shit? Trump for showing how far right-wing propaganda can take a person? Russia? Johnson for being a selfish, stupid, spineless coward? Or 52% of voters for being xenophobic, blinkered idiots?
LadyWithLapdog · 17/10/2020 19:16

@Pumperthepumper I have a long list but you’ve covered the main culprits.

Sunshiney1981 · 17/10/2020 19:30

Still a stony silence from leave voters.....

Roussette · 17/10/2020 19:50

Pumper So agree

We've been duped. Let's hope with Jacinda in NZ winning such a resounding victory, we can turn the tables (and of course US elections... )

ssd · 17/10/2020 23:15

We weren't duped in Scotland. We've seen the tories for what they are for years. I just hope English voters can see them for what they are now.

But I'm not holding my breath.

pickingdaisies · 17/10/2020 23:25

My DH and I were watching him in different rooms. We both shouted through to each other, Was that a smirk? He's smirking. He's definitely smirking.
First thing we'd agreed on all afternoon.

echt · 17/10/2020 23:38

I've just watched a clip of that speech: almost as if he was trying to suppress laughing out loud.

And as for the Australia-style deal? Is this on advice from the unlamented Tony Abbott, a man with no experience whatsoever of trade deals? I tell you, here in Australia we roared with laughter at the idea, and the wish for him never to come back was widespread.

I feel sorry for the UK. He's a nong of the first water.

ssd · 17/10/2020 23:50

Of course he's smirking, who wouldn't be, when they know they stand to make a fortune from a no deal brexit.

Whoever thought otherwise???

friendlycat · 18/10/2020 00:03

It’s a big mess. It was the day the country voted to leave. It will affect everyone in the country if no deal prevails. Those who voted for it just don’t know it yet though, but they’ll find out soon enough if we leave with nothing.
The whole World is in a mess at the moment. Adding on a no deal Brexit will cripple so many businesses (mine included) that are already struggling so badly with a Worldwide pandemic that nobody could have invisaged this time last year. The best that can be hoped for now is some half arsed cobbled together framework whereby both sides can say they have “won”. Of course we are going to come out of this the worst but if some semblance of a deal with limited tariffs can be achieved in this mess it would be a decent result. Not the right or best result by any means, but far better than falling off the edge of the cliff which will decimate this country.

AKissAndASmile · 18/10/2020 03:32

We weren't duped in Scotland. We've seen the tories for what they are for years. I just hope English voters can see them for what they are now.
I'm so scared. Once Scotland leaves we'll be stuck with a Tory government forever! I guess you get the government you deserve, only I've never in my life voted Tory and never will 😭

emilybrontescorsett · 18/10/2020 06:04

I wish people would learn to do just a tiny bit of research. We live in an age where people have access to cast swathes of information, why on earth don't people research things?
Why don't they dig deep into the finances of who owns what etc and then see for themselves the true reasons of why X wants the country to do Y?
The whole shambles of Track & Trace for example. Labour wanted to give the power to local authorities who could direct the resources where they say fit . The conservatives have voted this down, why? Because if purely financial reasons. They are in bed with the people who stand to profit from the company they have given the contract to.

emilybrontescorsett · 18/10/2020 06:12

And for the love of God why oh why doesn't anybody constantly question how on earth the NHS is struggling when it is receiving the promised £350,000,000 extra per WEEK from leaving by the EU?
That would be my question every single time this government started on the NHS can't cope line. Of course it can cope, what the hell are they spending £350,000,000 a week on?
Bexiteers told us this , so come on, where is this huge amount of cash goung?........

Hopoindown31 · 18/10/2020 08:21

I'm kind of resigned to it all now and just hope that I can weather the storm.

I sure as shit won't be taking any blame for it though. Anyone who suggests that can f* right off.

Antonov · 18/10/2020 08:30

@emilybrontescorsett

I wish people would learn to do just a tiny bit of research. We live in an age where people have access to cast swathes of information, why on earth don't people research things? Why don't they dig deep into the finances of who owns what etc and then see for themselves the true reasons of why X wants the country to do Y? The whole shambles of Track & Trace for example. Labour wanted to give the power to local authorities who could direct the resources where they say fit . The conservatives have voted this down, why? Because if purely financial reasons. They are in bed with the people who stand to profit from the company they have given the contract to.
@emilybrontescorsett

Can you support this? I for one would find that very interesting.

LizzieSiddal · 18/10/2020 09:02

I wish people would learn to do just a tiny bit of research. We live in an age where people have access to cast swathes of information, why on earth don't people research things?

This is what’s wrong with our country. It’s in the interests of those in power to keep it like this. They don’t want vast swathes of the population to be asking questions. So they don’t do anything about it. They send their children to the best schools so they get to the top and keep the rules as they are, so they continue to suit the rich and powerful. M
We are fucked unless we educate the majority to a high standard so they do ask questions. It starts at home but if that isn’t happening schools must do their bit.

Roussette · 18/10/2020 09:04

We only have to look at Baroness Dido Harding. She was the disgraced CEO of Talk Talk who was paid nearly £3M in 2015 despite the worst cyber attack ever by two teenage boys.. She is married to a Tory MP and is a donor.

Her record is awful, yet here she is in charge of Track and Trace and we have had 16,000 unreported cases.
Has she been asked to leave because of this? no. She's a crony of matt Hancock and is completely out of her depth. Yet still she plods on buggering up everything she touches

Oh, and just to add to that, her tory MP husband has called in the past for the NHS to be replaced by an insurance system.

Dodgy or what...

Eve · 18/10/2020 09:16

I was scoffed at last year for saying workers rights will be decimated and now with Covid unemployment I think early next year this will happen.

In the guise of getting people into work and reducing unemployment employee rights over redundancy , sick pay, working hours etc will be wiped out. Health and safety legislation won’t be far behind , food standards already gone!

Am I agree with poster above, I think a United ireland in my lifetime - who would have thought Boris could achieve in a couple of years what the IRA failed to achieve.