To feel so angry that we'll be getting a no deal Brexit now on top of all this shit

[puffinsseagulls]

Australia deal = no deal effectively. Quite annoyed with the PM smirking though his speech as well. Seemingly uncaring about what he's inflicting on people. I do believe people in 2016 weren't voting for no deal. I know it's happening anyway, but it's a cheek to try to blame the EU for it imo.

YANBU with bells on, if we think this year has been shit...

I still think a last minute deal will be done, which will probably be a bad deal.

I didn’t hear any blame placed solely on the EU either

Why would there be? The EU hasn't done anything wrong here.

Did Boris say what they are doing about the UK-EU border in a no deal?

This is what they wanted all along

Thanks WhatdoImean maybe there are quite a few in good positions now to benefit from disaster capitalism then given the huge bungs for PPE etc as well.

The break up of the union will happen soonish I agree. Perhaps the whole country will divide into tiny factions - Manchester, London, Cornwall, etc

The EU can't be arsed with us, we are an absolute pain and Covid takes priority. I'd honestly consider shutting the border, closing the channel and leaving the brits stranded on their tiny (mighty) island

What now? Where do you think the border is, and how do you imagine it can be closed?
Also, UK, not Britain, and not all on one island.

YANBU

We are contending with a pandemic and now it looks like a no deal brexit too. What next, a plague of locusts, showers of shit raining down from the sky, zombie apocalypse?

The brexiteers said of course the EU will want a deal, why wouldn’t they it’s in their interests as much as ours? Er.....because they are totally fed up with dealing with bumbling Boris and the rest of his clowns in government for one.

Yes, can't blame them SomeoneTellBorisHeHasDandruff

I ordered my "Don't Blame Me, I Voted To Remain" badges today.

I'm 65, and am hoping that wearing one will innoculate me against Brexit-related ageism.

Brexiters have never understood that the EU really does not need us as much as we need them. Some of them honestly think it is them who will come cap in hand to us next year when No Deal really bites. I say think, that's probably not the most accurate way to describe what goes on in their heads.

I'm throughly depressed today.
This has Tony Abbot's hands all over it. Added to the covid problems , it's all just made me really down. What a horrible day,

@unmarkedbythat

Brexiters have never understood that the EU really does not need us as much as we need them. Some of them honestly think it is them who will come cap in hand to us next year when No Deal really bites. I say think, that's probably not the most accurate way to describe what goes on in their heads.

To be fair they have been monumentally manipulated by those who do/should understand the reality but have another agenda.

He's smirking because he knows he has the EU over a barrel. They need us more than we need them and all this is them trying to get what they want without compromise.

It ain't over yet people. My guess is they are playing chicken right now and Boris is confident they will back down first

I can't understand why the Leave voters are not more angry than they are, since this is not at all what most of them voted for.

Had I voted Leave in 2016, believing all the promises made then, and found myself shafted by this bunch of opportunists now, I'd be livid.

Amusedtodeath - how does Johnson have the EU over a barrel?

@Tanith

Many think brexit has already happened and think that the bad predictions didn't come to pass.

(I know it has happened, but we haven't had the chance to feel the impact yet).

Had I voted Leave in 2016, believing all the promises made then, and found myself shafted by this bunch of opportunists now, I'd be livid

Takes courage and strength to admit you were wrong. The vote to leave tapped into people’s fears and amplified them.

I'm so fatigued by all this I just want them to get on and do it. If it's an utter shambles, we can face reality and sort out the mess. If it wasn't so bad we can move on. I'm tired of the arguing.

Idiots will still try to blame the EU for not rolling over and giving the UK everything it wanted whilst allowing it drop everything it didn't want. If the past 4 years haven't taught them how wrong they are, I doubt even the coming 4 years will. They'll continue to blame the big, bad EU for everything because to do otherwise would mean admitting they believed a load of hogwash and have brought real and totally unnecessary suffering upon us. I don't think their egos will allow them to do anything but double down and pretend.

Exactly my thoughts, just a big massive confirmation bias for idiots.

Maybe No Deal would actually be for the best? The sooner the UK hits rock bottom, the sooner it will have to change course.

What’s the alternative? Limping along for decades, making every excuse under the sun about why we’re falling behind our European neighbours? No thanks.

The aides have been told not to come over next week. Have to see what happens I suppose. It is very worrying and on top of covid as well the outlook is very grim for jobs and the economy. :(

@amusedtodeath1. How do the EU need us more than we need them?

I cant believe that anyone is surprised by this news. Meaning that this is what the majority of the country wanted.

Let's hope they all enjoy it as much as they thought they would.

The EU are fine, they probably can't wait to see the back of the lot of us to be honest.

@Cattenberg I guess that is the silver lining but I'm really not looking forward to the period of reevaluation.