To feel so angry that we'll be getting a no deal Brexit now on top of all this shit

[puffinsseagulls]

Australia deal = no deal effectively. Quite annoyed with the PM smirking though his speech as well. Seemingly uncaring about what he's inflicting on people. I do believe people in 2016 weren't voting for no deal. I know it's happening anyway, but it's a cheek to try to blame the EU for it imo.

That's my point. It was too obvious. Questions were bound to get asked. Pest Fix is not the end of the story.

Add in Pestfix’s director admitting to The Times that the company had never sold PPE before

I did try to locate a free-to-view version of the Times article earlier - no luck - although I did spot this relating to a subsequent article;

Corrections & Clarifications - The Times;

"27 Aug 2020—We said in a leading article (Aug 26) that “Little appears to qualify Pest Fix, an extermination company, to manufacture personal protective equipment (PPE).” PestFix [sic] has asked us to make clear that it is not an extermination company but a pest control supplies company, that its contract with the government was to supply PPE, not to manufacture it, and that the contract was completed to the agreed specification and ahead of schedule."

Antonov
I can only see two companies with Pest Fix in their name at companies house. I would be staggered if these are the companies involved.

I've just checked myself - they are quite clearly the companies involved - you can tell from the directors' surname.

Accept they are. But 100% it makes no sense if you are trying to keep such a transaction out of the public eye would you give it to a company like that. It would stick out like a sore thumb to HMRC immediately it starts completing vat returns or payroll. HMRC would have asked questions. Colossal mistake - the issue is which type of mistake?

but a pest control supplies company, that its contract with the government was to supply PPE,

And this tells us how exactly a company which sells mousetraps is qualified to supply PPE from somewhere?

@Clavinova

Corrections & Clarifications - The Times;

That only clarified that PestFix is effectively a wholesaler, not a manufacturer, and not that it is a regular supplier of PPE to the NHS.

The CityAM piece quoted the paywalled Times article re Daniel England telling the Times that although the company had not previously sold PPE, he had “very good connections in the supply chain” in the far East and had “tried to help the NHS in their hour of need”.

There’s a thread on Reddit that appears to reproduces the Times article if you’re interested.

oh dear god the copy pasting water muddying. Its like fiddling about trying to prove you can walk when you have to fight mike Tyson

There’s a thread on Reddit that appears to reproduces the Times article if you’re interested.

Ok - got that - only confirms that the Times didn't use quotation marks for the relevant phrase - the company had not previously sold PPE.

So tiny company gets £32m contract for isolation suits.

And then it transpires that PestFix also got a £200k contract for gloves (no doubt why they were scrabbling around begging on LinkedIn), plus £945k for gowns. And £145m for unspecified items of PPE.

Oh, and it looks like PestFix were also given £168.5m to procure masks for the NHS.

PestFix has already admitted that masks it supplied to clients such as the NHS and care homes were faulty.

Oops.

So £346m of contracts to a company with 14 employees and £19k in the bank?

Plus another 5 contracts that still haven’t been disclosed yet? Maybe we’ll have to wait another 6 months to find out.

user1471565182

You can stick with the Caribbean conspiracy theories - I'm going shopping.

Cummings and his mates at Cambridge Analytica just wanted to
break everything
He is succeeding.

All of the rest of us are losing.

Jo Maugham reporting today that some contracts being awarded via brokers, but govt refusing to name subcontractors... twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1318136989183561730

The whole thing stinks to high heaven

Annnnnd... the moment clav gets challenged, she buggers off, true to form. She does this on other threads as well. No point arguing with her, she will always find a reason why No Deal Brexit will be fiiiiiine and why the Tories are great.

oh dear god the copy pasting water muddying.

It's intended to make the thread unreadable. Once you understand that ...

@KenDodd

I can't help thinking that we'd be better governed if it wasn't for voters like Clavinova. On both sides, there are plenty of Labour supporters that are equally fanatical and completely blind to any faults or wrongdoing. Oh, well, we are where we are.

There were more than 2 sides. The remain campaign was an echo chamber. People still haven't faced up to how attempting to stymie Brexit simply entrenched leave supporters views. Its how the Tories got an 80 seat majority.

@Clavinova

CherryPavlova

You quite clearly singled out PestFix - but you don't know any of the details - just something you read on social media?

"Pestfix had sixteen employees. Not exactly in a position for third largest PPE contract. No wonder theory [sic] haven’t delivered but as there are no sanctions for non-completion, it doesn’t matter. They get the money anyway."

Clavinova. No. I gave them as an example. I know the full details but am not in a position to share them, sadly. A tiny Sussex based mousing firm has several multimillion pound contracts and fails to deliver. Not surprising really. No tendering. No sharing information about their performance. No governance. Do you work in Littlehampton?

PestFix are based in a metal shed next to the marina aren’t they?

It’s hardly a multi-million pound set up.

It's all semantics

It’s a bit more of a multimillion pounds business now SabrinaThwaite!

I think we'll have some kind of a deal on most issues, but with lots of areas being fudged

@Jolonglegs

I think we'll have some kind of a deal on most issues, but with lots of areas being fudged

IF there is no overall deal (and i think there probably will) then over the next few years perhaps.... but the EU has made it v clear they will not give the UK a Swiss style mini deals deal!

Of course they might be lying! who the xxxx knows now?

It's all semantics

Ha! It is all testosterone and semen tricks.... Not good I think. I don't mean the rhyme.

Let us hope for a short haircut and that is all.

pointythings
Annnnnd...the moment clav gets challenged, she buggers off, true to form.

I went out - it was a crossed post!

SabrinaThwaite

PestFix has already admitted that masks it supplied to clients such as the NHS and care homes were faulty.

I can't see the word "faulty" on your screenshot.

Plus another 5 contracts that still haven’t been disclosed yet? Maybe we’ll have to wait another 6 months to find out.

Perhaps - a London judge dismissed the Good Law Project's disclosure application on the 18th August.

CherryPavlova
I know the full details but am not in a position to share them, sadly.

I'm intrigued!

fails to deliver

I see no reason for PestFix to lie to the Times on 26th/27th August;

"the contract was completed to the agreed specification and ahead of schedule."

"You say brexit, I say fuckit...let's call the whole thing off"