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To feel so angry that we'll be getting a no deal Brexit now on top of all this shit

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puffinsseagulls · 16/10/2020 14:19

Australia deal = no deal effectively. Quite annoyed with the PM smirking though his speech as well. Seemingly uncaring about what he's inflicting on people. I do believe people in 2016 weren't voting for no deal. I know it's happening anyway, but it's a cheek to try to blame the EU for it imo.

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SimplyPizza · 16/10/2020 14:46

I did not see any smirking Confused YABU for moaning about an already done-to-death topic. I didn’t hear any blame placed solely on the EU either.

ListeningQuietly · 16/10/2020 14:49

Transition ends soon.
Nothing is ready.
Its going to be a not very merry Christmas.

LonelyFromCorona · 16/10/2020 14:51

YANBU - many millions feeling this way.

Can this really go on any longer? we need some common sense leadership

madasamarchhare · 16/10/2020 14:51

He’s always smirking. I always get the impression he doesn’t really care while he’s bumbling over his words and erring all the time. He’s alright jack.

unmarkedbythat · 16/10/2020 14:51

He looked smug, didn't he? But then he always does.

Idiots will still try to blame the EU for not rolling over and giving the UK everything it wanted whilst allowing it drop everything it didn't want. If the past 4 years haven't taught them how wrong they are, I doubt even the coming 4 years will. They'll continue to blame the big, bad EU for everything because to do otherwise would mean admitting they believed a load of hogwash and have brought real and totally unnecessary suffering upon us. I don't think their egos will allow them to do anything but double down and pretend.

cologne4711 · 16/10/2020 14:51

I am not sure fishing is really worth cutting off our food supplies for. Macron is an arse though, he was the one who cut the time of the original extension from March 2019, too. I am sure there are a lot of people in France who don't want no deal either, but he just wants to get one over on Boris.

Get prepping ladies (and no, that is NOT panic buying, it's planning ahead. You have around 10 weeks).

WhatdoImean · 16/10/2020 14:52

@SimplyPizza

I did not see any smirking Confused YABU for moaning about an already done-to-death topic. I didn’t hear any blame placed solely on the EU either.
As regards the EU being blamed:-

*The first thing to say is the trade talks are over. The EU have effectively ended them by saying they do not want to change their negotiating position.

The EU can either fundamentally change their position or we can leave on Australian terms.*

As regards "done to death" - if you are unhappy about someone commenting on the news of the day... don't bother coming into the thread then, surely? This is major news - if yo ulive in Kent, this could have significant impacts on your life. If you rely on a job where you need Just In Time ordering from the EU, you could have one more bit of pressure (on top of Covid) meaning your job could be gone.

Yes I am annoyed (and saddened) by this - but then, of course, all these people keep telling us "We knew what we were voting for", so hey ho - good luck Sad

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puffinsseagulls · 16/10/2020 14:58

YABU for moaning about an already done-to-death topic

Wait till January when supermarkets are empty and Kent has become a giant car park/ toilet park

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Mia1415 · 16/10/2020 15:01

YANBU 2021 is going to be even worse than 2020.

Lonelycrab · 16/10/2020 15:04

@SimplyPizza looks pretty much like a smirk to me.

To feel so angry that we'll be getting a no deal Brexit now on top of all this shit
tortoiseshell1985 · 16/10/2020 15:04

I agree the fall out from 2020 is going to be horrific then with Brexit on top.
I don't know what can be done though
also all the civil liberties that have been removed literally just like that. Will these be restored any time soon?

Blue565 · 16/10/2020 15:08

The EU can't be arsed with us, we are an absolute pain and Covid takes priority. I'd honestly consider shutting the border, closing the channel and leaving the brits stranded on their tiny (mighty) island.

Why should they care? We are the ones who inflicted this shit situation on ourselves.

pontypridd · 16/10/2020 15:14

He looked smug because this is what he's always wanted.

It will benefit Boris and his mates for us to have a no deal. I've no idea how. Maybe someone else can explain.

pontypridd · 16/10/2020 15:16

Macron is an arse though, he was the one who cut the time of the original extension from March 2019, too. I am sure there are a lot of people in France who don't want no deal either, but he just wants to get one over on Boris.

This is the story Cummings, Gove, Johnson, Reesmugg and co want us to believe. They're pulling the wool over your eyes if you do.

They've always wanted a no deal Brexit. They will benefit from it. We won't.

daretodenim · 16/10/2020 15:20

@pontypridd

He looked smug because this is what he's always wanted.

It will benefit Boris and his mates for us to have a no deal. I've no idea how. Maybe someone else can explain.

I believe JRM at least is set to benefit financially from it. I'd be shocked if the rest weren't too - or their relatives.
Didlum · 16/10/2020 15:21

YABU for moaning about an already done-to-death topic
Yes, if I'd voted to leave like you I'd probably not want to be reminded of my stupidity either. Don't bother to pretend you voted Remain by the way as you obviously didn't

rogueantimatter · 16/10/2020 15:22

I'm hoping his statement today is a negotiating tactic. A reminder to the EU which would prefer a deal to no deal that he really is prepared to walk away if he doesn't get more concessions.

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puffinsseagulls · 16/10/2020 15:25

I'm hoping his statement today is a negotiating tactic. A reminder to the EU which would prefer a deal to no deal that he really is prepared to walk away if he doesn't get more concessions.

I read something along the lines of it's like going to buy a new car, asking for loads of money off, and saying if they don't give it to you you'll smash up the car you drove there in with a sledgehammer.

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CrunchyNutNC · 16/10/2020 15:28

@rogueantimatter

I'm hoping his statement today is a negotiating tactic. A reminder to the EU which would prefer a deal to no deal that he really is prepared to walk away if he doesn't get more concessions.
Unfortunately we need them more than they need us.
KittCat · 16/10/2020 15:28

Yanbu...

RHTawneyonabus · 16/10/2020 15:29

I think it’s still part of his (terrible) negotiating strategy. I don’t believe anything he says at all. Why would I?

seabreeze77 · 16/10/2020 15:29

They made sure they gave themselves a nice pay rise too, to cushion them from any possible drop in their lifestyles. Safe in their jobs too.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 16/10/2020 15:35

It's a shit show... It will worsen... I'm hope we're wrong but I doubt it.

I'm a passionate remainer...but as its happening regardless of all the issues we've been banging on for, for over 4 years (esp relating to Russian interference and how badly the election was run). We do NEED a decent deal.

The UK are the ones going cap in hand. I'm unsurprised EU is thoroughly fed up with us... The government have obfuscated, lied and generally been arses for years....

Where is Johnson's oven easy deal??

Is that the one where we have no essential medicines and food shortages... And Kent turns into a lorry park...

Still, blue passports eh?....

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puffinsseagulls · 16/10/2020 16:10

It will benefit Boris and his mates for us to have a no deal. I've no idea how. Maybe someone else can explain.

I'm not sure either but we can safely bet there's something in it for them. As always it's those at the bottom of the pile already who will suffer most - including all the kids already going hungry Angry

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WhatdoImean · 16/10/2020 16:24

The way it benefits Boris et al. is via what is known as "Disaster Capitlism".

The basic concept is that during a period of major social unrest/turmoil (such as , I don't know, a major economic upset brought about by a country leaving a huge established economic grouping to "go it alone") major businesses within that country will be available to be bought for a fraction of the cost.

As the country returns to sanity (at some point), the values of these assets can either be stripped, or re-sold for hugely inflated (compared to what they bought them for) prices.

All in all - not a good time to be in the UK. I would love to be absolutely and totally (wonderfully!!!) wrong! I truly, really would - but I fear we are in for "interesting times" within the UK.

For example, I think we are looking at the break up of the Union within my lifetime :-(