To feel so angry that we'll be getting a no deal Brexit now on top of all this shit

[puffinsseagulls]

Australia deal = no deal effectively. Quite annoyed with the PM smirking though his speech as well. Seemingly uncaring about what he's inflicting on people. I do believe people in 2016 weren't voting for no deal. I know it's happening anyway, but it's a cheek to try to blame the EU for it imo.

That's a lot of people you are talking about there. Maybe this is exactly the attitude leave voters were trying to get away from?

37% of the electorate in 2016.

Perhaps as one of the 37% you’ll just need to own the consequences of your vote now?

Nasty
That's a lot of people you are talking about there. Maybe this is exactly the attitude leave voters were trying to get away from?
Ignorant

Sometimes you have to call a turd a shit.
Just because a lot people believe something, doesn't make it true.

I'd suggest that people who believe that one of the worlds largest trading blocs, need a country of 66m, in dire economic decline, are the ignorant ones?

I'd just like to say I haven't stated my Remain/leave vote here, you are just presuming.
I didn't like that comment as it slags of the whole of the UK.

@SabrinaThwaite

That's a lot of people you are talking about there. Maybe this is exactly the attitude leave voters were trying to get away from?

37% of the electorate in 2016.

Perhaps as one of the 37% you’ll just need to own the consequences of your vote now?

Please see my above quote, you are just assuming my vote.

I don’t understand what you mean re what do I expect? I’m just giving my opinion on what I think will happen. I’m no fan of Brexit, I wish we had remained and joined the protests for a 2nd ref. The country is not ready for Brexit, deal or no deal. Surely they must know that it would be very bad for them politically to create massively damaging supply chain disruption in the middle of a pandemic, on top of a recession and all the other usual hardships of winter like flooding. I know they will try and blame the EU and the racist, populist little Englanders they seem to be pandering to will buy it, but surely when faced with the evidence of their own eyes (lorry park/food and medicine shortages etc) the rest of the leavers will then be able to admit that the way Brexit has been handled, especially the decision not to extend transition, has been woeful. It should be political suicide.

The mail hasn't run with this story about the EU which I find a bit odd.
Isn't top news on their website.

OK, I’ll rephrase that just for your benefit.

All the 37% can own the consequences of their vote.

I'm scared shitless of a no deal TBH.

YADNBU OP. This is a shitshow of epic proportions. My respect for Boris et al would shoot up if they made the adult decision to admit this and call the whole thing off, so they can pour their questionable energy into dealing with the small matter of the pandemic that's killing millions and the economy. But nah, then we'd have to contend with the twatty 'but this is not democracy' Leave voters wibbling on.

If you were a Leave voter, can you answer me this (honestly and no waffle about 'we won, it is what it is, people voted for this blah blah blah'): do you still want Brexit? Now? Knowing that for most of you, it'll be like sticking a knife into the open wound caused by the pandemic? Can you answer that...or should I expect some feeble sneering. Because you KNOW this is ridiculous and terrifying, and you just can't admit you voted for it, can you?

Yes I'm angry and scared. I live in Scotland and I will vote for independence should the opportunity arise again. It's not what I ever wanted (I'm English) but I can't see another way. I am done with England.

This confirms my theory of everything being able to be learnt from football. This is David Moyes desperately paying 5 million over the release clause to buy Fellaini on deadline day in his first season in charge after holding out for a great fucking deal.

YANBU.

What a mess.

yeah, try 'getting away from a attitude' by voting to leave a trade block. Fucking genious level thinking there id expect from a brexiter.

It was his intention, I believe. The man probably has tertiary syphillis.
The economy is going to crash but he’ll blame Covid19, whilst JRM and other cronies make a nice packet by incite hatred and fear.

Most corrupt neo-Nazi cabinet ever.

What are likely to be the first consequences felt by the public, do you think?

I read that food prices are predicted to rise about 20% early next year? If rents fall (which they seem to be doing in London at least) will that absorb some of the blow from rising food costs?

Perhaps I'm clutching at straws but am scared for people I love in the UK.

Of course Boris didn't give a fuck, non of them do.
Boris isn't intelligent enough to know what to do.
He cannot manage this pandemic and he certainly cannot negotiate a good exit deal for us. There again why should he care?
Seriously if you can answer that question please enlighten the rest of us.
Plenty of Tories are already cashing in on this whole palavour, just as they are cashing in on the chaos that is track and trace. Contracts have been given to Tory donators.
I absolutely cannot be arsed explaining anything to Brexiters. I 'd be quite happy for them to take the hit. They can all suffer and do without. They can all sit crying I have zero sympathy. I
I agree 100% with Andy Burnham.
Lots of people will not support a further lockdown, they don't see Tory politicians suffering and doing without so why should they?

Also why should the EU try and help the UK?

Was the other No deal Brexit/ anti Boris thread deleted?

Yanbu. Brexit voters' silence on the current and pending outcomes of their witless voting, speaks volumes.

@Dustballs

Was the other No deal Brexit/ anti Boris thread deleted?

If you mean the thread with the OP wanting BJ to go to hell? Yeah it was.

My respect for Boris et al would shoot up if they made the adult decision to admit this and call the whole thing off

Unfortunately we can't, we're stuck with it now, we have left but the implications aren't felt until 31 Dec.

I'm just mystified as to what we have to bargain with that the EU would want anyway, except a few fish. (Not sure if anyone has told the fish themselves, mind. Echoes of Soft Border Patrol there.) Anyone who thinks otherwise really is living in Cloud Cuckoo Land. I just hope to God Biden wins and remembers all those vile comments BJ made about him in the past and tells us where to go as well.

It's happening. We can't change it. I will never forgive those who voted Leave for blindly obeying the subliminal commands coming at them from every channel and doing this to us, and I sincerely hope karma catches up with Cameron at some point for instigating the whole sorry mess. I hope those who voted Leave are going to be able to live with themselves for the next few years as I'd be surprised if we didn't end up about on a par, economically, with Russia and the Eastern Bloc in the early 1980s.

But none of that changes the fact it's happening. And as the pandemic shows, the government couldn't organise a party in a brewery if the bottles were all lined up in front of them with the tops off. So we all now need to make our own plans as to how to deal with it, whatever form that takes, whether it's planting our own food, ensuring we can access essential medicines, or (depending on age and skills) simply leaving England as soon as it's a viable option for wherever will have us that isn't America.

On a brighter note, I understand they're opening a Unicorn Sanctuary in Kent. ;)

It appears that @amusedtodeath1 is unable to detail all - or indeed any - of the ways in which 'they need us more than we need them'.

Colour me absolutely fucking gobsmacked, eh?

I loathe and despise the people who are still cheerleading for this pile of rancid, steaming shit. I will never, ever forgive them.

@amusedtodeath1

He's smirking because he knows he has the EU over a barrel. They need us more than we need them and all this is them trying to get what they want without compromise.

It ain't over yet people. My guess is they are playing chicken right now and Boris is confident they will back down first

How funny. Only it’s not. The only barrel is the one a corrupt government is forcing the population to roll over with an erosion of our rights. It is very akin to Germany in 1933. Isolationist policy, renaming on international law, corrupt contracting, lies and more lies. Dismissive of our lawyers and basic human rights. Creating hatred.

Scary. Really quite scary. And still people think ‘Boris’ is a ‘bit of a lad’. He’s smirking because lesser brained Brexiteers have feathered his rather seedy nest.

"Macron is an arse though, he was the one who cut the time of the original extension from March 2019, too. I am sure there are a lot of people in France who don't want no deal either, but he just wants to get one over on Boris."

No. We would prefer you hadn't taken the issue of voting on EU membership so lightly and that your government weren't a bunch of cunts but that's about as far as our feelings go, we don't really think much about the UK.

I’m very down about it, such a terrible move for the UK. We’re really fucked.