Westministenders: Brevid

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The government have FINALLY started to treat no deal brexit and covid as one entity in terms of fucking the economy.

On the one hand you have one camp who think they can sneak No Deal through as a consequence of Covid. On the other you have people who realise that it might be quite a good idea not to doubly screw your entire economy and to continue to be able to import medical supplies freely.

We now no that No Deal Brexit will involve passports to get into Kent and 7 mile queues of trucks because this has passed the lips of Gove. Y'know one of those who has been denying this for the past 4 years and presenting it as 'scaremongering'.

We are now firmly into the end game where businesses have to make plans based on the government plans and technology. Y'know the ones that aren't complete yet despite it only being 2 months to go.

Johnson has today done an interview about covid restrictions in the NE in which he got all the detail wrong. Its almost as if he forgot the lines he was instructed to recite and have no fundamental understanding of what rules he's putting into place to control the lives of the population.

As we lurch into October, there is speculation of full local lockdowns being brought in to try and deal with the spiralling number of cases which have to be the result, in no small part, of a dire lack of local testing facilities in the North of England. Meanwhile we've got The App finally. The one that doesn't work and the police and many health care staff are being advised not to use cos its so bobbins and will lead to them constantly isolating needlessly. Thats just something the rest of us have to contend with.

The feeling is that Cummings is up for No Deal. Johnson has been brainwashed into it, which lets face it, isn't too hard given how hard of thinking he is. However there is a growing sense that Johnson may now bottle it and declare victory in the jaws of defeat. That might be a premature hope.

We await the answer and the all important question of whether Christmas is indeed cancelled - that is for everyone who hasn't already cancelled it due to financial hardship...

PARLY Retweeted Sophie Morris @itssophiemorris

Tory MP and ardent Brexiteer John Redwood nearly went through the wrong division lobby
in the third reading vote of the UK Internal Market Bill.

“John, John, John!” shouted the whips

Is it the Tory council leader boasting?

No it's not.
Difficult though - ten days ago the Guardian ran this article;

"David Greenhalgh said the area’s high rate had been linked back to pubs in the town and a “cohort of people” who refused to follow the guidance."

"The Conservative councillor told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “We had somebody who did not adhere to quarantine, did not stay the 14 days, literally went on a pub crawl with a number of mates.”

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/19/rise-in-bolton-covid-cases-linked-to-holidaymaker-who-didnt-isolate

Posted on the last thread, but will repeat here FWIW.

here will be another extension if they can, not sure if that's allowed, but I suppose it will be if requested.

I am in ROI and we are very worried, and laughing at the ineptitude of the current Gov in UK at the same time. It is difficult to be impartial anymore when faced with the current crop. But we shall see what happens. Not long to go now.

And I hear that the law that breaks the law has now been approved by HOC. Lovely.

Welsh Labour in charge here of course;

"Four councils in north Wales are to go into local lockdown in a bid to tackle the spread of Covid-19."

"People will not be able to leave or enter Conwy, Denbighshire, Flintshire, and Wrexham unless they have a "reasonable excuse" such as work or education."

"They are the same restrictions as seen in most of south Wales, where lockdowns cover 11 different areas."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54346608

here will be another extension if they can, not sure if that's allowed, but I suppose it will be if requested.

There's a law specifically preventing it. It would need to be repealed before the UK could ask for (or accept) an extension.

All of which is bye the bye. I can't see the EU even thinking of it.

Shall be going to bed early tonight so that I can watch the summaries of the Trump Biden debate
cba to stay up till 2 am our time

IMB
If the HoC votes against the IMB, either the govt gives up, or seesms they would have to prorogue parliament to try again
< oh gawd >
in which case it would only become law in Q4 2021 - i.e. far too late to be useful if the EU really did plan to pile on pressure in Q1 !

I wonder what they are promising / threatening peers to get it through 1st time .....

Graeme Cowie@woodstockjag @CommonsLibrary Clerk (Brexit/Constitutional Law),

Two obstacles.

(1) Bill won't clear Commons til end of September.
Can't prorogue for Parliament Act purposes until late October

(2) Even if Commons passes the Bill again before 2021,
Royal Assent could only be guaranteed in the final quarter of... 2021

oops sorry, typo:

If the HoL votes against the Bill, then it is give up or prorogue

@DGRossetti

here will be another extension if they can, not sure if that's allowed, but I suppose it will be if requested.

There's a law specifically preventing it. It would need to be repealed before the UK could ask for (or accept) an extension.

All of which is bye the bye. I can't see the EU even thinking of it.

... imo the EU would agree, because of member state Ireland

Pmk, and thank you RTB.

The EU acts in the interests of its members, not to "punish" the UK

Ireland would probably push for an extension if the Uk repealed its law first and then asked ... not the other way round

An extension could infutiate those businesses who keep preparing for no deal, with costs involved,
but that applies to UK businesses just as much

I think the IMB would also have to be repealed as the price of an extension

So probably far too much public humble pie for BJ to attempt that particular U-turn

Events flying by so quickly PMK. Hard to keep up with the next round of incompetence/cronyism/dark money self interest.

@BigChocFrenzy

I think the IMB would also have to be repealed as the price of an extension

So probably far too much public humble pie for BJ to attempt that particular U-turn

I think if they remove the offending articles from it, the EU will agree to an extension.

Sebastian Payne
@SebastianEPayne
Collision symbol FT Exclusive: Priti Patel asked officials to explore the construction of an asylum processing centre on Ascension Island - a British overseas territory more than 4,000 miles from the UK in the south Atlantic, for migrants coming to Britain.

@SwedishEdith

Sebastian Payne *@SebastianEPayne* Collision symbol FT Exclusive: Priti Patel asked officials to explore the construction of an asylum processing centre on Ascension Island - a British overseas territory more than 4,000 miles from the UK in the south Atlantic, for migrants coming to Britain.

FFS

Amounts to the same thing from a Brexiter's pov:
the only purpose of the IMB was to renege on the bits of the WA they don't like

However, I suppose a figleaf would cover a castrated bill as far as most UK public opinion is concerned

Brexiters believed BJ that the WA was over-ready, then when it was a bad deal,
so maybe they'll keep BeLeaving whatever shit BJ feeds them, if he wraps it in enough piffle and tousles his hair

@SwedishEdith

Sebastian Payne *@SebastianEPayne* Collision symbol FT Exclusive: Priti Patel asked officials to explore the construction of an asylum processing centre on Ascension Island - a British overseas territory more than 4,000 miles from the UK in the south Atlantic, for migrants coming to Britain.

.... So that's why the UK hangs on to odd bits of Empire You never know when you might need a remote prison island

@BigChocFrenzy

Amounts to the same thing from a Brexiter's pov: the only purpose of the IMB was to renege on the bits of the WA they don't like

However, I suppose a figleaf would cover a castrated bill as far as most UK public opinion is concerned

Brexiters believed BJ that the WA was over-ready, then when it was a bad deal,
so maybe they'll keep BeLeaving whatever shit BJ feeds them, if he wraps it in enough piffle and tousles his hair

I completely agree.

However, removing the offending bits and running with the rest allows the face saving claim that it was only a teensy bit of the bill that would only kind of break the law and only if the mean and nasty EU made them do it and it wasn't really important. But the real, important, bits of the IMB get passed and WE GOT BREXIT DONE. YIPPEE. And it's all because we are brilliant negotiators and we only put that bit in anyway so we could take it out and the EU would think they won but they didn't really and WE GOT BREXIT DONE. YIPPEE.

Ochon, you are a government insider, and I claim my £5.

@ICouldHaveCheckedFirst - cheque's in the post.

The Daily Telegraph:

says that Conservative backbenchers who are hoping for the right to vote on coronavirus restrictions appear to be on the brink of winning their argument,
following the prime minister's admission he did not correctly describe the rules in the North East.

< suitable stock photo of BJ looking confused >

The Times:
has Uk on red alert after record cases

Guardian:
The government is too reliant on management consultants, based on a leaked ministerial letter.

Most other papers warn that nearly 1 million breast cancer tests have been missed during lockdown.

PMK

BBC reporting that even with a FTA the car industry will fall foul of rules of origin provisions.

Another "project fear" prediction turns out to be correct.

Surely Boris won't prorogue Parliament again??!!😮