Westministenders: Brevid

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The government have FINALLY started to treat no deal brexit and covid as one entity in terms of fucking the economy.

On the one hand you have one camp who think they can sneak No Deal through as a consequence of Covid. On the other you have people who realise that it might be quite a good idea not to doubly screw your entire economy and to continue to be able to import medical supplies freely.

We now no that No Deal Brexit will involve passports to get into Kent and 7 mile queues of trucks because this has passed the lips of Gove. Y'know one of those who has been denying this for the past 4 years and presenting it as 'scaremongering'.

We are now firmly into the end game where businesses have to make plans based on the government plans and technology. Y'know the ones that aren't complete yet despite it only being 2 months to go.

Johnson has today done an interview about covid restrictions in the NE in which he got all the detail wrong. Its almost as if he forgot the lines he was instructed to recite and have no fundamental understanding of what rules he's putting into place to control the lives of the population.

As we lurch into October, there is speculation of full local lockdowns being brought in to try and deal with the spiralling number of cases which have to be the result, in no small part, of a dire lack of local testing facilities in the North of England. Meanwhile we've got The App finally. The one that doesn't work and the police and many health care staff are being advised not to use cos its so bobbins and will lead to them constantly isolating needlessly. Thats just something the rest of us have to contend with.

The feeling is that Cummings is up for No Deal. Johnson has been brainwashed into it, which lets face it, isn't too hard given how hard of thinking he is. However there is a growing sense that Johnson may now bottle it and declare victory in the jaws of defeat. That might be a premature hope.

We await the answer and the all important question of whether Christmas is indeed cancelled - that is for everyone who hasn't already cancelled it due to financial hardship...

@DGRossetti - I'd be curious as to the differential in costs between using the landbridge, and ferries.

Travel time is a big factor for fresh food so cost would not necessarily be the deciding factor.

I'm guessing that once the landbridge can be bypassed, the running costs and subsumed startup costs will make it very unlikely it will be able to win back the lost traffic.

Quite likely.

@Clavinova

OchonAgusOchonO I'm always open to learning new things.

On the contrary - you appear to have a very closed mind.

Really? What do you base that (rather insulting) premise on?

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Long time lurker but enjoying the ToryBrexitannianNationalPlague factoids much as I did the previous dictionary definitions. Thanks Elements for sanity, amusement and squirrel distraction.

I was quite enjoying the os penis factoids too - although I don’t think I would ever describe them as kinky (but each to their own ).

@SabrinaThwaite

I was quite enjoying the os penis factoids too - although I don’t think I would ever describe them as kinky (but each to their own ).

More curvy ...

LandBridge travel time from Rosslare to Cherbourg via UK = 15 hours
Direct ferry time on Stena = 17 hours

Boats are MUCH slower than roads
BUT
Unaccompanied trailers could be sent on boats with sod all facilities
(Container ships are not big on drivers' sleeping quarters)

OchonAgusOchonO
Really? What do you base that (rather insulting) premise on?

You've asked me the same question half a dozen times - which I have already answered. Perhaps you are trying to intimidate me - but I am sat here in a fit of giggles.

@ListeningQuietly

LandBridge travel time from Rosslare to Cherbourg via UK = 15 hours Direct ferry time on Stena = 17 hours

Boats are MUCH slower than roads
BUT
Unaccompanied trailers could be sent on boats with sod all facilities
(Container ships are not big on drivers' sleeping quarters)

2 hours ? 13% extra ?

Not too bad, really.

Is Irelands internal infrastructure up to a change in traffic ?

Is weather likely to be more of an issue than UK-France ?

@ListeningQuietly

LandBridge travel time from Rosslare to Cherbourg via UK = 15 hours Direct ferry time on Stena = 17 hours

Boats are MUCH slower than roads
BUT
Unaccompanied trailers could be sent on boats with sod all facilities
(Container ships are not big on drivers' sleeping quarters)

It also depends on where you're going/coming from too.

LandBridge travel time from Rosslare to Cherbourg via UK = 15 hours

Just musing further, does that include the drivers break ?

Some more penis facts www.mentalfloss.com/article/527234/12-facts-about-penis for those of us feeling the nuts of the squirrel revving up again

@Clavinova

OchonAgusOchonO Really? What do you base that (rather insulting) premise on?

You've asked me the same question half a dozen times - which I have already answered. Perhaps you are trying to intimidate me - but I am sat here in a fit of giggles.

I've asked you the same question because you have not answered it. Massive difference between persistence and small mindedness.

Why on earth would you think asking someone to explain their logic is an attempt at intimidation? Glad to see you're amused. A bit of humour is excellent for mental health.

As you claim to have answered my question, perhaps you would reiterate as it appears to have gone missing?

I love Elements factoids although I already knew of the nature of cat penises after our lovely 9 month old girl kitten was on the receiving end of the savagery of the Tomcat owned by the rifle toting Neanderthal next door but one (in the suburbs so his rifle toting was limited to walking up and down a 40 foot back garden in full army camouflage). It cost a fortune in vets bills but the Neanderthal was clearly in “That’s my boy” mode when we suggested the snip. I feel sure he would hold it up as an example of why the ToryBrexitannia project is going to be a huge success.

LandBridge travel time from Rosslare to Cherbourg via UK = 15 hours

Glad you posted that. I was just musing on the time differential and thought it wouldn't be much - with Holyhead to Dover being something like a 6 - 7 hour journey with no stops, not accounting for the time driving onto the ferry in Ireland, off at Holyhead, on at Dover and off at Calais. So yes, it will quickly become competitive, with the need only for a driver to the port in Ireland, and then picked up by one in France.

But an unlooked for bonus might be that there are fewer heavy goods vehicles on the roads, so better for the environment.

I misread the post about the tomcat. I couldn't understand how a cat could parade up and down the garden in camouflage, and thought that the rifle toting was a euphemism for said tomcat's male appendage!

I defer to the greater tech knowledge on here but I do know a little about Bioscience PhDs. Are they not in the face of one of the greatest big data management challenges humanity has faced, namely all the data being thrown up by DNA research? It is the reason that advances in understanding the implications of our genome have not come more quickly. UCL not so long ago held a conference that bought in a huge range of disciplines including game developers to try and find a way through, presumably not because they were constrained by only being able to use Excel 😂

Now those lighthouse labs though now struggling were full throughout the summer with Bioscience PhDs who are facing those data management challenges daily and are certainly trained in it to an even greater extent than they are in PCR reading, which is a basic skill. Could it possibly be that nobody asked a Bioscientist under 35?

I misread the post about the tomcat. I couldn't understand how a cat could parade up and down the garden in camouflage, and thought that the rifle toting was a euphemism for said tomcat's male appendage!

🤣😂

Except now, having read Emily's post and then Peregrina's I'm picturing a strutting tomcat with a spiky erection, upon which is flying a ToryBrexitannian flag!

I couldn't understand how a cat could parade up and down the garden in camouflage Why not? 😂😂

OchonAgusOchonO
As you claim to have answered my question, perhaps you would reiterate as it appears to have gone missing?

That's unfortunate - you should be more careful in future. You're not using Excel are you?

Elements 😂😂😂

Though please don’t give the willy of the people waving Brexit Neanderthals any ideas ...

Re Ferries :
Back in the 80's unaccompanied trailers were a big thing
they arrived from across the continent by train and were then picked up by tractor units in Dover

A similar version in Ireland - pop the units on the train to Dublin or Rosslare and then onto the ferry to France
those boats are HUGE, bigger than the Bay of Biscay ones
and pick up in Cherbourg / Le Havre by mainland Europe Units to go to their destination

It could be done
and the UK would be the loser
again

@TheElementsOfMedical

I misread the post about the tomcat. I couldn't understand how a cat could parade up and down the garden in camouflage, and thought that the rifle toting was a euphemism for said tomcat's male appendage!

🤣😂

Except now, having read Emily's post and then Peregrina's I'm picturing a strutting tomcat with a spiky erection, upon which is flying a ToryBrexitannian flag!

Brings a whole new meaning to “running it up the flagpole”