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RedToothBrush · 29/09/2020 14:38

The government have FINALLY started to treat no deal brexit and covid as one entity in terms of fucking the economy.

On the one hand you have one camp who think they can sneak No Deal through as a consequence of Covid. On the other you have people who realise that it might be quite a good idea not to doubly screw your entire economy and to continue to be able to import medical supplies freely.

We now no that No Deal Brexit will involve passports to get into Kent and 7 mile queues of trucks because this has passed the lips of Gove. Y'know one of those who has been denying this for the past 4 years and presenting it as 'scaremongering'.

We are now firmly into the end game where businesses have to make plans based on the government plans and technology. Y'know the ones that aren't complete yet despite it only being 2 months to go.

Johnson has today done an interview about covid restrictions in the NE in which he got all the detail wrong. Its almost as if he forgot the lines he was instructed to recite and have no fundamental understanding of what rules he's putting into place to control the lives of the population.

As we lurch into October, there is speculation of full local lockdowns being brought in to try and deal with the spiralling number of cases which have to be the result, in no small part, of a dire lack of local testing facilities in the North of England. Meanwhile we've got The App finally. The one that doesn't work and the police and many health care staff are being advised not to use cos its so bobbins and will lead to them constantly isolating needlessly. Thats just something the rest of us have to contend with.

The feeling is that Cummings is up for No Deal. Johnson has been brainwashed into it, which lets face it, isn't too hard given how hard of thinking he is. However there is a growing sense that Johnson may now bottle it and declare victory in the jaws of defeat. That might be a premature hope.

We await the answer and the all important question of whether Christmas is indeed cancelled - that is for everyone who hasn't already cancelled it due to financial hardship...

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Givemeabreakpls · 29/09/2020 14:39

Ooh in on the ground floor! PMK with thanks

mrslaughan · 29/09/2020 14:43

Pmk

bellinisurge · 29/09/2020 14:44

Haven't been around much because, frankly, my stomach couldn't stand it.
Johnson's failure today to know what the fucking rules are in the North East tells you all you need to know about what's coming.
I just wish I'd get a surprise and everything would be handled well. I really do.
Fuck em.

DGRossetti · 29/09/2020 14:44

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pointythings · 29/09/2020 14:45

Meanwhile we've got The App finally. The one that doesn't work and the police and many health care staff are being advised not to use cos its so bobbins and will lead to them constantly isolating needlessly.

Unfair to bobbins - they're useful when making lace.

Pan2 · 29/09/2020 14:47

6 rule, and non-association blanket rule are starkly different.

You'd think.

Pan2 · 29/09/2020 14:49

We are off to Skye later this week, sooooo will be downloading the Protect Scotland app. Remain suspicious of anything from any govt atm but feel it's the polite thing to do as a vistor.

ListeningQuietly · 29/09/2020 14:51

Glad that at least one of my children will be able to afford food at Christmas Wink

titchy · 29/09/2020 14:51

Brevid? Coxit (up) surely? Wink

Peregrina · 29/09/2020 14:52

Johnson doesn't need to know what the rules are in the North East, because when Cummings next goes up there he will break them anyway.

Meuniere · 29/09/2020 14:53

PMK

Whenwillow · 29/09/2020 14:59

I have two children living in EU cities, and I'm so grateful they are out of it. The countries have been excellent regarding what they've needed to do in order to stay put. Way better in terms of covid too.
DH just read me a news article about our Prime Minister's latest cock up. You couldn't make it up really (any of it!)
I am so grateful for these threads and all contributors. They are my go-to to make sense of what's going on.

DGRossetti · 29/09/2020 15:00

@Peregrina

Johnson doesn't need to know what the rules are in the North East, because when Cummings next goes up there he will break them anyway.
Weirdly, I actually don't have a massive problem with Boris not knowing the minutiae of the current guidelines. It would be akin to expecting a CEO to know what version of software their servers are running.

Which makes it more unacceptable that rather than immediately and confidently refer any inquiry to the various up to date sources of information - websites, facebook pages etc - he chose to try and bullshit his way through it. It speaks volumes about his opinion of himself and moreover of those around him.

I never cease to wonder at how organisations and people manage to piss away any goodwill I (and presmably similar minded people) gift them at the beginning of any development.

what makes it even worse is this fucking "misspoke" shit that seems to be A Thing. Just Fuck Off.

colouringindoors · 29/09/2020 15:01

pmk

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Whenwillow · 29/09/2020 15:03

@ListeningQuietly great news for your young person. Good to hear some happy news Flowers

OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 29/09/2020 15:04

what a clusterfuck of shit

Darker · 29/09/2020 15:05

pmk

Sostenueto · 29/09/2020 15:05

Pmk thanks Red.

FatCatThinCat · 29/09/2020 15:19

pmk

dontcallmelen · 29/09/2020 15:34

@OrangeBlossomsinthesun

what a clusterfuck of shit
Sums up my PMK, as ever many thanks Red & all contributors you are my island in a sea of sanity.
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dontcallmelen · 29/09/2020 15:35

insanity ffs

TokyoSushi · 29/09/2020 15:39

PMK. A question, I have had the app since last Thursday, I have been to a pub, a restaurant, 2 supermarkets and a couple of shops. I haven't been asked/had the opportunity to 'check-in' once. How does it know where I've been and therefore who I could have infected? (I don't have COVID, just hypothesising) or does it have no clue what I've been up to? If so, what's the point?

RedToothBrush · 29/09/2020 15:46

Blue tooth. It connects with other people walking around with the app on their phone with their bluetooth switched on. This is the big weakness with the app. It requires other people to have bluetooth. Except this gives far too many false positives and doesn't take into account if you have been wearing a mask/ppe. And the log in thing is only time saving rather than significantly more useful than a pen and paper. And its only really useful in terms of 'protecting' you if enough people use it as intended.

Its usefulness has been somewhat overstated to put it mildly.

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LouiseCollins28 · 29/09/2020 15:49

Thanks Red as ever. Rejoining the fray after a manic time here. We are still under local restrictions round here and seem to have been joined now by large areas of northern England and most of Wales.
Don't think my phone will even run the app (I am not remotely unhappy about that)

TokyoSushi · 29/09/2020 15:50

Its usefulness has been somewhat overstated to put it mildly.

Sounds like a fair summing up of the situation @RedToothBrush !

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