Westministenders: Brevid

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The government have FINALLY started to treat no deal brexit and covid as one entity in terms of fucking the economy.

On the one hand you have one camp who think they can sneak No Deal through as a consequence of Covid. On the other you have people who realise that it might be quite a good idea not to doubly screw your entire economy and to continue to be able to import medical supplies freely.

We now no that No Deal Brexit will involve passports to get into Kent and 7 mile queues of trucks because this has passed the lips of Gove. Y'know one of those who has been denying this for the past 4 years and presenting it as 'scaremongering'.

We are now firmly into the end game where businesses have to make plans based on the government plans and technology. Y'know the ones that aren't complete yet despite it only being 2 months to go.

Johnson has today done an interview about covid restrictions in the NE in which he got all the detail wrong. Its almost as if he forgot the lines he was instructed to recite and have no fundamental understanding of what rules he's putting into place to control the lives of the population.

As we lurch into October, there is speculation of full local lockdowns being brought in to try and deal with the spiralling number of cases which have to be the result, in no small part, of a dire lack of local testing facilities in the North of England. Meanwhile we've got The App finally. The one that doesn't work and the police and many health care staff are being advised not to use cos its so bobbins and will lead to them constantly isolating needlessly. Thats just something the rest of us have to contend with.

The feeling is that Cummings is up for No Deal. Johnson has been brainwashed into it, which lets face it, isn't too hard given how hard of thinking he is. However there is a growing sense that Johnson may now bottle it and declare victory in the jaws of defeat. That might be a premature hope.

We await the answer and the all important question of whether Christmas is indeed cancelled - that is for everyone who hasn't already cancelled it due to financial hardship...

The article Misti referenced is here.

BBC News - Brexit: Blow to UK car industry in search for EU deal
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54345882

I look forward to reading an explanation of the inaccuracies in the article. This thread is so informative.

@TheElementsOfMedical

DGR And I hope you are learning a lot from my mixed bag of facts

It's a pleasure

@ListeningQuietly

Well well, colour me surprised Trump refused to condemn racist misogynist thugs so its possible that the US election result will not be finalised by the date of the end of Brexit transition

Only somebody as arrogantly stupid as Cummings would not advise his puppet boss to sign whatever deal the EU offer to make sure the UK is protected from the coming storm

I saw a post saying that the Trump machine (now there's an image) was emailing his supporters with the results of the debate before it started.

Vaguely reminds me of Paul Sinhas gag about a offering a prize with Pakistani internation cricket results 2015-2025 ...

The issue is Patel trying to send migrants to remote islands on the other side of the world, rather than merely offshore

Also, copying the most authoritarian ideas from everywhere, including the EU, is not a good strategy
Why not copy the social contract so many countries have

What next for Patel ?
Copy & paste laws from Hungary & Poland ?

• and boy, I wonder how many times per day the EU Commision curses the UK for having pushed them into allowing former Warsaw Pact countries decades too early, before they had recovered socially or economically from 45 years of Moscow dictatorship

The EU will be relieved to no longer having to follow UK-USA foreign policy

Also, putting the 12k job losses at Bridgend in context, the German car industry employs nearly 3 times as many people as the UK car industry, so the impact on the industry and the country's economy will be greater. (Clearly, the impact on the 12k individuals is not what I'm talking about here.)

And just a small point about 10pm curfews in pubs. Licensing laws in Scotland prevent alcohol being sold in supermarkets after 10pm.

Many migrants are from regions sent into chaos by senseless US-UK wars, wars for oil and profit for other US compnises that donate to the right politicians

I hope in future that Brexit means the UK has much less influence in persuading EU members to join in

PMK
The issue is Patel trying to send migrants to remote islands on the other side of the world, rather than merely offshore

It's quite possibly the closest British territory to Africa, which is probably where the most migrants in boats are coming from or through. Quite how it would be supposed to stop small boat journeys I have no idea. If they're not going to use what official channels there are, I can't see the Atlantic being safer than the Med.

I hear that one mass-production auto firm with UK plants, maybe Nissan, may switch to the captive UK market

That will take some doing, as all such firms currently rely on JIT and import parts from the EU,
as well as relying on export sales
So a massive restructuring of their business model, supply chains and marketing

A monopoly would enable higher car prices to cover this, but even so, can they cover the transition period to this model ?

Those buying luxury prestige cars will be better able suck up any import tariffs on components or the entire car.

I suspect, this will appear in history texts 100 years from now, much as Gillray speaks to us ...

@Pepperwort

PMK The issue is Patel trying to send migrants to remote islands on the other side of the world, rather than merely offshore

It's quite possibly the closest British territory to Africa, which is probably where the most migrants in boats are coming from or through. Quite how it would be supposed to stop small boat journeys I have no idea. If they're not going to use what official channels there are, I can't see the Atlantic being safer than the Med.

... The migrants coming to the UK by boat aren't going to apply there

The question is whether Patel wishes to transport those arrivals to the other side of the world

• it would need legal compulsion, a I doubt any would freely agree to being transported Probably needs a law change to give her the automatic right to transport them

@DGRossetti

I suspect, this will appear in history texts 100 years from now, much as Gillray speaks to us ...

.... or this:

Curious the BBC is barking. Well whining a bit. I wonder if the new DG is already having an effect ?

The question is whether Patel wishes to transport those arrivals to the other side of the world - it would need legal compulsion, a I doubt any would freely agree to being transported Probably needs a law change to give her the automatic right to transport them

Presumably suspending habeas corpus

Placemarking with the observation that prison hulks were my first thought when I heard the Home Office were considering all possibilities.

One is very entitled:

Queen ‘furious’ after staff refuse to stay in her Covid bubble over Christmas

Doesn't one realise that many of one's subjects probably can't see their family at all at Christmas

• whereas one will probably be able to see multiple relatives -

and / or be skint through reduced pay or losing their job

One is VERY out of touch and heading for Marie-Antoinette territory

https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/29/queen-furious-after-staff-refuse-to-stay-in-her-covid-bubble-over-christmas-13341692/

The Queen is reportedly ‘furious’ after her staff refused to stay with her in a ‘Covid bubble’ over Christmas.

Around 20 Royal Household employees had been asked to remain on the monarch’s estate in Sandringham to support her, Prince Philip and other members of the Royal Family during the festive period.

But the group are reportedly fighting against it because they are unwilling to self-isolate from their families for four weeks and not be able to see them.

This means the Queen, 94, could be forced to spend Christmas at Windsor Castle for the first time in 33 years.

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@borntobequiet

Placemarking with the observation that prison hulks were my first thought when I heard the Home Office were considering all possibilities.

Placement hulks ...

Processing hulks ...

The Queen is reportedly ‘furious’ after her staff refused to stay with her in a ‘Covid bubble’ over Christmas.

Coming on top of losing Barbados and Jamaica ...

Maybe Patel could transport the RF to Acension Island forever for the duration of the crisis
so the rest of the country don't get too pissed off by the level of entitlement and privilege

Much more interesting is the Shell/oil demand story ...

As discussed passim the sudden liberation (yes, I know) of a mass of workers to WFH is going to upend the UKs economy in ways as yet unimagined.

Well, unimagined by people who have skin in a game of not imagining. I know Westminstenders have already mulled it over.

All very well talking about the car industry. But if all of a sudden a load of people don't need two cars ...

Now if I were in charge, I'd be looking to leverage a fall in traffic to accelerate developments in autonomous cars. Which is a growth industry and which would probably involve a lot of work remodelling city centres.

Once again, apart from being an archaeologists dream a 2035-ready HS2 still looks like a total waste of everything.

Of course a decline in the demand for oil and subsequent reduction in energy prices suggests a slowdown in the viability of "green" energy. Unless you game the market with subsidies.

Looks like the Hitachi decision had several drivers.

I'd be interested in an AIBU about an entitled boss at Christmas demanding 20 employees isolate for 4 weeks

• if the RF were not mentioned in the OP

@BigChocFrenzy

I'd be interested in an AIBU about an entitled boss at Christmas demanding 20 employees isolate for 4 weeks - if the RF were not mentioned in the OP

The lustre has certainly come off her madge in recent months.

Maybe it was going to happen anyway - after all the idea of a monarch by descent is so ludicrous that it's indefensible. It just dissolves on contact with logic and reason.

But I'm thinking a republican movement would certainly appeal to some in the Tories who get to sleep with a special moment imagining phrases like "Today, President Patel opened a new processing ship in the North Sea while Vice-President Raab did something else we were ordered to plaster over our inside pages. Crossword on p.51"

The Queen is reportedly ‘furious’ after her staff refused to stay with her in a ‘Covid bubble’ over Christmas.

This means the Queen, 94, could be forced to spend Christmas at Windsor Castle for the first time in 33 years.

How is Windsor any different from Sandringham? Won't the Windsor staff be expected to stay in a bubble too?

I really, really can't see a big move away from the notion of the car as personal transport, it seems absolutely central to its appeal to me. Particularly in "Covid World" the idea of "on demand" autonomous vehicles owned by some agency or company, not by private individuals seems likely to be a hiding to nothing.

Probably she wants to choose which 20 employees bubble, according to her preference for a Sandringham jolly ?