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RedToothBrush · 29/09/2020 14:38

The government have FINALLY started to treat no deal brexit and covid as one entity in terms of fucking the economy.

On the one hand you have one camp who think they can sneak No Deal through as a consequence of Covid. On the other you have people who realise that it might be quite a good idea not to doubly screw your entire economy and to continue to be able to import medical supplies freely.

We now no that No Deal Brexit will involve passports to get into Kent and 7 mile queues of trucks because this has passed the lips of Gove. Y'know one of those who has been denying this for the past 4 years and presenting it as 'scaremongering'.

We are now firmly into the end game where businesses have to make plans based on the government plans and technology. Y'know the ones that aren't complete yet despite it only being 2 months to go.

Johnson has today done an interview about covid restrictions in the NE in which he got all the detail wrong. Its almost as if he forgot the lines he was instructed to recite and have no fundamental understanding of what rules he's putting into place to control the lives of the population.

As we lurch into October, there is speculation of full local lockdowns being brought in to try and deal with the spiralling number of cases which have to be the result, in no small part, of a dire lack of local testing facilities in the North of England. Meanwhile we've got The App finally. The one that doesn't work and the police and many health care staff are being advised not to use cos its so bobbins and will lead to them constantly isolating needlessly. Thats just something the rest of us have to contend with.

The feeling is that Cummings is up for No Deal. Johnson has been brainwashed into it, which lets face it, isn't too hard given how hard of thinking he is. However there is a growing sense that Johnson may now bottle it and declare victory in the jaws of defeat. That might be a premature hope.

We await the answer and the all important question of whether Christmas is indeed cancelled - that is for everyone who hasn't already cancelled it due to financial hardship...

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JeSuisPoulet · 05/10/2020 18:09

Covid test came back negative - wahoo!

Singasonga · 05/10/2020 18:22

Great news, JeSuisPoulet!

prettybird · 05/10/2020 18:51

Great JeSuisPoulet Thanks

Meuniere · 05/10/2020 18:52

According to the Leave.EU lot we are now in danger due to vegan leftist death squads Grin

twitter.com/joejglenton/status/1313040270506758144?s=21

TheElementsOfMedical · 05/10/2020 19:12

Glad to hear it @JeSuisPoulet Wine

ListeningQuietly · 05/10/2020 19:17

Relieved for all three of you Poulet

TheABC · 05/10/2020 19:22

[quote Meuniere]According to the Leave.EU lot we are now in danger due to vegan leftist death squads Grin

twitter.com/joejglenton/status/1313040270506758144?s=21[/quote]
That's surely got to be sarcasm?

Although, if Johnson did want to put Argentinian-style death squads on the streets, there's not a lot left to stop him. Perhaps we should be grateful they are merely corrupt and incompetent.

Congratulations @JeSuisPoulet, on the test results.

TheABC · 05/10/2020 19:24

[quote DGRossetti]Cruise ships starting to be scrapped ...

www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-turkey-ships-idUSKBN26O0LC[/quote]
After reading how damaging the cruise industry is to the environment, plus the horrific treatment of their staff left stranded on boats during the epidemic, I will play the world's smallest violin for them.

OchonAgusOchonO · 05/10/2020 19:29

[quote DGRossetti]yorkshirebylines.co.uk/the-norths-enthusiasm-for-brexit-is-on-the-wane[/quote]
To be perfectly honest, I have very little sympathy for those who believed all the nonsense about it being the "easiest deal in history" and "they need us more than we need them".

pointythings · 05/10/2020 20:16

Excellent news, JeSuisPoulet!

I don't have much sympathy for the BeLeavers in the North either.

OchonAgusOchonO · 05/10/2020 20:30

@JeSuisPoulet - I missed your post so just scrolled up to see what your news is. Always brillant to hear of people testing negative. Great news.

AuldAlliance · 05/10/2020 20:31

Phew all round, Poulet.

TheMShip · 05/10/2020 20:37

That's a relief JeSuis! Glad to hear it.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 05/10/2020 20:47

Thank goodness, JeSuis

BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 20:50

Excellent news, poulet Brew

BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 20:52

How Excel may have caused loss of 16,000 Covid tests in England

Explains what happened in simple non-techy language, but oh gawd .... ^manual data input
Were labs sending all the test data every time via Excel, instead of just the new^ data ?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/05/how-excel-may-have-caused-loss-of-16000-covid-tests-in-england

... the rapid development of the testing programme has meant that much of the work is still done manually, Shock
with individual labs sending PHE spreadsheets containing their results.

Although the system has improved from the early days of the pandemic, when some of the work was performed with phone calls, pens and paper, it is still far from automated.

In this case, the Guardian understands, one lab had sent its daily test report to PHE in the form of a CSV file – the simplest possible database format, just a list of values separated by commas.
That report was then loaded into Microsoft Excel, and the new tests at the bottom were added to the main database.

But while CSV files can be any size, Microsoft Excel files can only be 1,048,576 rows long – or, in older versions which PHE may have still been using, a mere 65,536.
When a CSV file longer than that is opened, the bottom rows get cut off and are no longer displayed.

That means that, once the lab had performed more than a million tests, it was only a matter of time before its reports failed to be read by PHE.

ListeningQuietly · 05/10/2020 21:22

Bigchoc
The data / cyber folks on my Linked in are literally slack jawed that the PHE data is being C&P into an excel sheet

implies a total lack of data cleansing as well Hmm

DGRossetti · 05/10/2020 21:30

Of course if Nissan do chase HMG for losses due to no deal Brexit, it'll wipe out the .07% uptick in trade we're promised...

Peregrina · 05/10/2020 21:32

To be perfectly honest, I have very little sympathy for those who believed all the nonsense about it being the "easiest deal in history" and "they need us more than we need them".

I have absolutely none for those who voted Tory in 2019. They knew exactly what Johnson's character was, so they knew that it was foolish to trust him.

DGRossetti · 05/10/2020 21:47

@Peregrina

To be perfectly honest, I have very little sympathy for those who believed all the nonsense about it being the "easiest deal in history" and "they need us more than we need them".

I have absolutely none for those who voted Tory in 2019. They knew exactly what Johnson's character was, so they knew that it was foolish to trust him.

It won't be your sympathy they want, it'll be your money ...
BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 21:54

Zarah Sultana MP@zarahsultana

The Conservatives have spent £12 billion on Test and Trace, with private companies like Serco having been handed fortunes to run it.

And now the system is unravelling because it was using Excel spreadsheets.

Scandalous.

BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 22:28

Not the brightest crayon in the box:

Peter Foster Retweeted Emilio Casalicchio @e_casalicchio

Cabinet Office minister Penny Mordaunt tells the European Scrutiny Committee it is not the job of the Joint Committee to determine which goods are "at risk" of ending up in RoI.

She said it is for the trade talks.
But the NI Protocol states it's a Joint Cttee job. 🤔

BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 22:32

Dmitry Grozoubinski@DmitryOpines

No Brexit FTA resolution is going to magically emerge from the negotiating room, no matter how "intensely" Michel Barnier and David Frost stare into one another's eyes.

Johnson isn't ready to move on State Aid yet, and Von Der Leyen can't or won't drop the issue yet.

That's it.

BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 22:35

Dmitry Grozoubinski@DmitryOpines

"Freed from the shackles of EU State Aid rules,
the UK will finally be able to provide UK technology champions the subsidies they need to discover Microsoft Access exists.

It's all part of the Government's Levelling VLOOKUP Agenda."