Westministenders: Brevid

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The government have FINALLY started to treat no deal brexit and covid as one entity in terms of fucking the economy.

On the one hand you have one camp who think they can sneak No Deal through as a consequence of Covid. On the other you have people who realise that it might be quite a good idea not to doubly screw your entire economy and to continue to be able to import medical supplies freely.

We now no that No Deal Brexit will involve passports to get into Kent and 7 mile queues of trucks because this has passed the lips of Gove. Y'know one of those who has been denying this for the past 4 years and presenting it as 'scaremongering'.

We are now firmly into the end game where businesses have to make plans based on the government plans and technology. Y'know the ones that aren't complete yet despite it only being 2 months to go.

Johnson has today done an interview about covid restrictions in the NE in which he got all the detail wrong. Its almost as if he forgot the lines he was instructed to recite and have no fundamental understanding of what rules he's putting into place to control the lives of the population.

As we lurch into October, there is speculation of full local lockdowns being brought in to try and deal with the spiralling number of cases which have to be the result, in no small part, of a dire lack of local testing facilities in the North of England. Meanwhile we've got The App finally. The one that doesn't work and the police and many health care staff are being advised not to use cos its so bobbins and will lead to them constantly isolating needlessly. Thats just something the rest of us have to contend with.

The feeling is that Cummings is up for No Deal. Johnson has been brainwashed into it, which lets face it, isn't too hard given how hard of thinking he is. However there is a growing sense that Johnson may now bottle it and declare victory in the jaws of defeat. That might be a premature hope.

We await the answer and the all important question of whether Christmas is indeed cancelled - that is for everyone who hasn't already cancelled it due to financial hardship...

A lot of Clav's posts can be boiled down to "They did a bad thing too". Usually referring to EU member states.

Without addressing the aspect of scale and the fact that it's screw-ups in the UK which will affect most of the people reading and posting on this board. (Yes, I know there are regular posters in EU member states, and very useful their postings are for genuinely enlightening comparative information).

Every country occasionally makes mistakes, mostly small, some large
but
BJ & his Tory government are World-Beating Goatfucks
and they keep repeating on us like dodgy beans

"They did a bad thing too"

... which is typically much smaller and irrelevant anyway

FT: UK business research links to Europe plunge after Brexit vote

https://www.ft.com/content/ed2e508e-cfcf-4469-ab28-a26dffbb4d5e

<span class="italic">International collaboration by British businesses under the EU’s flagship research grant scheme have almost halved since the 2016 Brexit referendum</span>

as prolonged uncertainty weighs on sentiment.

The sharp drop-off in links under the £80bn Horizon 2020 research programme
which British companies will remain part of after the end of the Brexit transition period,
was described as “deeply disappointing” by the CBI employers’ body.
It called on the government to take urgent steps to arrest the decline.

Three major industry groups said the fall raised questions about the impact of Brexit on UK industry’s ability to work globally.

Late reply re science and the 'dark ages'.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00gksx4 Prof Jim Aim Al-Khalili tells the story of the great leap in scientific knowledge that took place in the Islamic world between the 8th and 14th centuries.

It should also be noted that if the Arabic world had not saved a lot of the Greek texts (Plato, Aristotle et al) they would have been lost for ever.

The rise of scientific Europe, the Enlightenment all depended on texts copied and saved, and work done by Islamic scientists etc.

@BigChocFrenzy

"They did a bad thing too"

... which is typically much smaller and irrelevant anyway

Indeed, hence my comments about scale and geography. Which matter, bigly.

Thanks for the , am recovering well but was a chaotic week!
Corkscrew penises making me rethink my moniker

What has continued to astound is how we have higher prevalence than we had prior to the national lockdown and less action, yet Boris et al still saying they need to be able to act quickly as an excuse for Henry VIII powers; they have been anything BUT timely with responses.

Must ask ds if he had a Covid test as he was in hospital for 2 nights (just under 48 hours - although most of the last day was waiting for his medications to be dispensed).

UK ministers face challenge on powers for MI5 agents

https://www.ft.com/content/3e161cbf-7ba1-4ead-ba82-94f75ec0d7e9

The &Covert Human Intelligence Sources bill^

• which enters parliament for its second reading on Monday - aims to provide legal protection for ^ a previously secret power known as “the third direction”.^ ^ This allows agents and informants working for the UK’s domestic security service MI5 as well as the police and other authorities to break the law^ if this would prevent a more serious crime or threat to national security. ...... David Davies .....also questioned ^ why the UK was granting far wider powers than two of its Five Eyes security partners, the US and Canada,^ which both specifically prohibit certain crimes such as murder and torture under similar legislation. < it says something when BJ has even fewer scruples than Trump >

@Clavinova

OchonAgusOchonO I spotted the headline on BigChoc's link.

One poster was interested enough;
mathanxiety
"Also, Clavinova, do you know much about the Irish Leaving Cert, how it is graded, how university applications and admissions are accomplished in Ireland, or the special arrangements that were offered this year due to the lockdown and its effect on schools?"

Why ask?

I am actually leaving now.

We're now onto "it wasn't me 'gov. BigChoc made me"

This article was also on BigChoc's link but you didn't c&p from it.

Why ask?

It's a very simple question. What do you believe to be the relevance of the leaving cert issue to the current thread as I'm failing to see its relevance?

I'm asking as I'm curious. The more you refuse to answer or try and deflect from the question, the more curious I become.

Surely you had a reason to cut and paste that story? If you had, and you think it's relevant, then surely it's not difficult to explain your logic? You would have answered the question 10 times over in the time you've spent deflecting.

@GaspodeWonderCat

Late reply re science and the 'dark ages'.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00gksx4 Prof Jim Aim Al-Khalili tells the story of the great leap in scientific knowledge that took place in the Islamic world between the 8th and 14th centuries.

It should also be noted that if the Arabic world had not saved a lot of the Greek texts (Plato, Aristotle et al) they would have been lost for ever.

The rise of scientific Europe, the Enlightenment all depended on texts copied and saved, and work done by Islamic scientists etc.

The fall of Toledo (and it's incredible to read how peaceful Arab Spain was) certainly helped kickstart the Renaissance.

Just catching up.

I had an email from LeClerc last night sating that the penis discussion is making him think that elements is rather odd
well yeah, we all are

Re fish caught in UK waters
I no longer eat squid or octopus after snorkelling with them.

I love razor clams
I love coley (the most under rated of the white fish because its grey but yummy)

elements is rather odd

Oi, I've been posting lots of random facts on many subjects! It's not my fault that all the Westministenders are most taken by the penis-related ones

Jesuis wishing you a speedy recovery & hope you get test results very soon 💐

Toyota, Nissan to seek reimbursement from UK if Brexit talks fail -Nikkei

Does make me wonder what May promised them ....

https://uk.reuters.com/article/britain-eu-japan/toyota-nissan-to-seek-reimbursement-from-uk-if-brexit-talks-fail-nikkei-idUKL1N2GW06W

TOKYO, Oct 5 (Reuters)
Japanese automakers Toyota Motor Corp and Nissan Motor Co Ltd are set to seek reimbursement from Britain if the government fails to agree on a EU trade deal, the Nikkei financial daily reported on Monday.

The automakers are bracing for an additional 10% EU tax on automobile imports from Britain,
and are demanding that the government pay for such extra customs costs,
the report said, without citing sources.
< first, the anonymous source, then later the heavy mob >

BigChoc
Does make me wonder what May promised them ....
Oh indeed.
We know she did it in writing ....
somebody will leak a copy at some stage

Toyota, Nissan to seek reimbursement from UK if Brexit talks fail -Nikkei

Once again, a casual trawl of these threads will show that is a surprise to no one except clav

From our French cat fancier:

Renault holds a 43.4% voting stake in Nissan, so it may be the French who leak

We can assume that Macron - and hence likely the EU Commission & Barnier - know the details of any letter or promises from May.

Macron might hang a framed copy of the letter in the visitors' loo, in the unlikely event that BJ gets invited to visit

Maybe this is part of the State Aid plans that BJ is so desperate to hang on to

@BigChocFrenzy

Maybe this is part of the State Aid plans that BJ is so desperate to hang on to

Write large, Brexiteers need to be able to pump state money into private businesses - how else are you going to bleed the country dry ?

They also need to be able to hide the failings of Brexit long enough to get away with it.

The veiled threats from Nissan are them getting twitchy surely - as we now know an English(wo)mans word is not her bond. Especially if it's an international agreement.

@lonelyplanetmum

The veiled threats from Nissan are them getting twitchy surely - as we now know an English(wo)mans word is not her bond. Especially if it's an international agreement.

Not much veiled about them - which is what makes them all the more credible and extra-ordinary.

It does make you wonder how safe the Japan deal is now, as well ?

Came across this on Twitter regarding the testing fiasco. I love this poet.

Cruise ships starting to be scrapped ...

www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-turkey-ships-idUSKBN26O0LC