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RedToothBrush · 29/09/2020 14:38

The government have FINALLY started to treat no deal brexit and covid as one entity in terms of fucking the economy.

On the one hand you have one camp who think they can sneak No Deal through as a consequence of Covid. On the other you have people who realise that it might be quite a good idea not to doubly screw your entire economy and to continue to be able to import medical supplies freely.

We now no that No Deal Brexit will involve passports to get into Kent and 7 mile queues of trucks because this has passed the lips of Gove. Y'know one of those who has been denying this for the past 4 years and presenting it as 'scaremongering'.

We are now firmly into the end game where businesses have to make plans based on the government plans and technology. Y'know the ones that aren't complete yet despite it only being 2 months to go.

Johnson has today done an interview about covid restrictions in the NE in which he got all the detail wrong. Its almost as if he forgot the lines he was instructed to recite and have no fundamental understanding of what rules he's putting into place to control the lives of the population.

As we lurch into October, there is speculation of full local lockdowns being brought in to try and deal with the spiralling number of cases which have to be the result, in no small part, of a dire lack of local testing facilities in the North of England. Meanwhile we've got The App finally. The one that doesn't work and the police and many health care staff are being advised not to use cos its so bobbins and will lead to them constantly isolating needlessly. Thats just something the rest of us have to contend with.

The feeling is that Cummings is up for No Deal. Johnson has been brainwashed into it, which lets face it, isn't too hard given how hard of thinking he is. However there is a growing sense that Johnson may now bottle it and declare victory in the jaws of defeat. That might be a premature hope.

We await the answer and the all important question of whether Christmas is indeed cancelled - that is for everyone who hasn't already cancelled it due to financial hardship...

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BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 11:21

A recent Tory fuckup that tragically cost many thousands of lives:

Covid: Care homes policies violated human rights, says Amnesty report

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54408723

Sending thousands of older untested patients into care homes in England at the start of the coronavirus lockdown was a violation of their human rights,
Amnesty International has said.

A report says government decisions were "inexplicable" and "disastrous", affecting mental and physical health.
More than 18,000 people living in care homes died with Covid-19
.....
Amnesty said it received reports of residents being denied GP and hospital NHS services during the pandemic,
"violating their right to health and potentially their right to life, as well as their right to non-discrimination".

BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 11:26

The government knew they were going to fuckup
and to cause other people, stretched beyond their limits and with inadequte resources, to make mistakes

So in the emergency Coronavirus legislation, they removed liability for negligence:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-bill-summary-of-impacts/coronavirus-bill-summary-of-impacts

This indemnity clause allows the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care (in relation to the NHS for England) and the Welsh Ministers (in relation to the NHS for Wales)
to provide indemnity for clinical negligence liabilities of healthcare professionals and others arising from NHS activities carried out as part of the response to a coronavirus outbreak.

The clause will provide indemnity for clinical negligence liabilities arising from NHS activities connected to the diagnosis, care and treatment of those who have been diagnosed as having coronavirus disease or who are suspected, or who are at risk, of having the disease

TheABC · 05/10/2020 11:26

When it comes to sex, I am deeply grateful to be a human being.
I saw this notice whilst walking around a petting farm yesterday:

"It's mating season for our ferrets. The male drags the female around by the neck, as part of the courtship ritual. Whilst this looks and sounds horrible, it's perfectly natural. Please do not be alarmed by their aggressive behaviour"

Should she LTB?

BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 11:27

Bloody hell, who knew Trump had ferret ancestry

OchonAgusOchonO · 05/10/2020 11:27

@Clavinova - A rap on the knuckles for mathanxiety then with her post;

@mathanxiety was posting in response to your post.

Anway, despite your efforts at deflection, I have noticed you haven't answered my question: Perhaps you could explain its [the leaving cert issue] relevance to the current thread as I'm failing to see its relevance.

BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 11:31

Look !

A squirrel ! 🐿
A dead squirrel 🐿

but the Tories are still flogging it ! 🐿

DGRossetti · 05/10/2020 11:32

@TheABC

When it comes to sex, I am deeply grateful to be a human being. I saw this notice whilst walking around a petting farm yesterday:

"It's mating season for our ferrets. The male drags the female around by the neck, as part of the courtship ritual. Whilst this looks and sounds horrible, it's perfectly natural. Please do not be alarmed by their aggressive behaviour"

Should she LTB?

A female ferret is a Jill, I believe.
Clavinova · 05/10/2020 11:34

Well some posters are Brexiteers, that's true enough.

Apparently our Scottish friends have difficulty as well.

Clavinova · 05/10/2020 11:36

OchonAgusOchonO

I really have to go soon but are all education related topics now banned?

BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 11:40

That squirrel is to divert attention, e.g. from

  • Incompetent negotiating and treaty-breaking that has ended the chance of any meaningful EU trade deal
    They are only aiming now for a figleaf tariffs & quotas minideal to cover their naked stupidity

  • 70% more positive Covid cases than though and cases going up, not levelling off
    Track & trace not informed, so infection has spread

  • Amnesty International slating them for human rights violations over care home deaths

Anyway, the error with a few thousand exams in Ireland, soon corrected,
doesn't remotely compare to the fiasco of miilions of exams in the UK and multiple U-turns by Gurning Gav

Peregrina · 05/10/2020 11:41

There are thread available to discuss education, so post there if you feel strongly.

Peregrina · 05/10/2020 11:44

Having read those links on fishing, I fairly confidently predict that there will be some sort of fudge, which Johnson and Chums will hail as a great success, we have seen off nasty EU, etc. etc. and it will do precisely SFA for those small fishermen who were grumbling about the big boats having all the quotas. But when will they wake up? When will they realise it's Westminster which has sold them out? (Will they wake up?)

JeSuisPoulet · 05/10/2020 11:47

PMK from weeks ago! Nice to spend the morning catching up!
I have been somewhat distracted by various dramatic incidences; one of which being a rather swift admission to hospital for an urgent operation Confused whereupon I was given a COVID test as I was in overnight. Needless to say I haven't ever had the result (is part of this huge sudden surge of "lost" date-wise). I have since been back to the hospital for removal of stitches and further scans and asked about the errant results 5 days later (was not given an ID card at the time and was barely coming around from surgery at time of swab). No one could find them. Have since developed at first a chesty cough (which I ignored assuming COVID test in hospital would have been returned/contact tracers would be all over me like a rash) which has now become a dry painful chesty cough. Took myself to testing centre on Sat morning and am still awaiting results. DD off school with me until we get them. Am a little pissed that I have potentially infected her entire class and a couple of dog walking parents, let alone the one guy I've actually got on with in over half a decade! Yes, he has been sterling in looking after me throughout - he cooks/cleans/dog walks and does school runs! Shock

For some reason I knew that ducks have corkscrew penises. The males often drown the females when they have sex with them too IIRC, which seems positively anti-Darwinian...

TheElementsOfMedical · 05/10/2020 11:49

Careful, I am reliably informed that some posters on here have a short attention span and can't cope with that much information.

Well, that is literally your strategy of 🐿👈👀 "Look over there! A squirrel!" it is clear that you certainly think that of anybody who can be persuaded to support ToryBrexitannianNationalPlague.

I'm finding I preferred Hate's suggestions of "Let's summarily repossess anything we fancy reclaiming, even stuff that we freely sold fair-and-square, screw the purchasers because we're Brexitannian and they're lesser beings!" Hmm At least it's a concrete plan.

Clavinova · 05/10/2020 11:52

Peregrina
There are threads available to discuss education, so post there if you feel strongly.

So when you posted about the A-level mess on the Brexit board you were just a bit confused at the time?

TheMShip · 05/10/2020 11:53

DGR One for you. It was an Excel file reaching its limit that caused the data not to be transferred through properly. Honestly. I know someone who was at Lighthouse seven months ago and told them to do a proper pipeline w/ database, they were told "don't be so difficult".

Westministenders: Brevid
Westministenders: Brevid
BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 11:53

Oh poor you, poulet 💐🍫

I hope that you are healing well after your OP
and that your nasty cough doesn't turn out to be Covid
What chaos
All those other people potentially infected if it is Confused

On the bright side, sounds like you've found a really useful bloke

OchonAgusOchonO · 05/10/2020 11:57

@Clavinova - I really have to go soon but are all education related topics now banned?

Funny how you always have time to reply to say you don't have time to reply.

No. Of course they are not banned.

I merely want to know could you explain the relevance of the leaving cert issue to the current thread as I'm failing to see its relevance. You dumped in a c&p about an issue that has no relevance to brexit or anything else that was being discussed at the time, so I assume you had a reason that I am not seeing?

TheMShip · 05/10/2020 11:58

Flowers JeSuis. I hope you recover swiftly and test negative. I once had the memorable experience of watching two male ducks attempting to violently mate with a dead female duck floating down the river.

OchonAgusOchonO · 05/10/2020 12:01

@Clavinova

Peregrina There are threads available to discuss education, so post there if you feel strongly.

So when you posted about the A-level mess on the Brexit board you were just a bit confused at the time?

I can see some relevance in discussing fuck-ups by the UK government as it is additional evidence that UK government is not capable of managing anything, never mind brexit.

However, I ask again, can you explain the relevance of the leaving cert issue to the current thread as I'm failing to see its relevance?

Peregrina · 05/10/2020 12:06

So when you posted about the A-level mess on the Brexit board you were just a bit confused at the time?

Not at all. A level mess - Johnson f*k up - Johnson in charge of Brexit - expect another f*k up - hence entirely relevant to a Brexit board.

Clavinova · 05/10/2020 12:06

OchonAgusOchonO
I spotted the headline on BigChoc's link.

One poster was interested enough;
mathanxiety
"Also, Clavinova, do you know much about the Irish Leaving Cert, how it is graded, how university applications and admissions are accomplished in Ireland, or the special arrangements that were offered this year due to the lockdown and its effect on schools?"

Why ask?

I am actually leaving now.

Peregrina · 05/10/2020 12:08

BTW - could anyone tell us how Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan or where-ever managed their school leaving exams? I am sure this most vital information will help us with Covid/Brexit.

Peregrina · 05/10/2020 12:12

Mind you the information that the sea has fish, which we can eat, may well be news to people like Raab, who appeared not to know that Great Britain does not have any land borders with foreign countries. (Yes, I do know about NI, the clue is in its name.)

BigChocFrenzy · 05/10/2020 12:17

The 🐿 tactic whenever we try to discuss any Tory fuckup

is to Google frantically around the world to see if someone ever made a mistake of any magnitude that could possibly be twisted for whataboutery