Westminstenders: Where are we now?

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Twenty thousand people
Cross Bösebrücke
Fingers are crossed
Just in case
Walking the dead

Where are we now, where are we now?
The moment you know, you know, you know

Just that.

Don't really want to reflect more than that right now.

Rashford achieved something that the Official Opposition could not, because he did not have to work through Parliament

So getting a statue removed = years of correct channels and nothing happens.

Getting kids fed = bypass official channels and get results.

Not quite sure we are getting the ingredients right for the "perfect society" casserole we'd all like to see

Dfil, who runs a company selling what are arguably luxury goods, has two cars. One respectable, smart but unremarkable model. And one very high end brand. Which car he takes on sales visits depends on the estimated spend of the customer. The wealthier they are, the more expensive the car as he finds the wealthy spend more if they feel he is "one of them" whereas the less well off are put off by sales people turning up in a car worth their annual salary.

I think labour were planning to force a vote on it with an opposition motion. All those back bench Tories may have felt that not feeding children was a bad look in their northern constituencies. Better the government U turn now than lose the vote.

I always find it deeply upsetting the way people insist on pulling down someone who has done a good thing not for themselves..... but for - especially- a helpless group like school children living in Poverty.

I don't care how much he earns - I do care he pays his rightful taxes..... but then I remember reading that footballers is one of the groups subjected to a high rate of tax audits.....

Rees-Mogg's however pays very very little corporation tax in this country - due to a series of manoeuvres ending in the Cayman Islands. Perhaps you should focus your derision at that Louise?
I shall try and find that info - which I saw over the weekend.

I think labour were planning to force a vote on it with an opposition motion. All those back bench Tories may have felt that not feeding children was a bad look in their northern constituencies. Better the government U turn now than lose the vote.

Maybe it should have gone to a vote and force some Tory MPs to grow a pair or find their spine. Because I could easily see them winning that vote in a Veep-style confusion.

And my original point stands ... just because this is applauded by many, what about the next bypass to procedure. And the next ?

Is the message becoming "ignore the official channels" ? And if it is, id that a good idea with the current people in government. It all plays into this "silent majority" bollocks used to justify unpopular measures.

I'd never heard of Marcus Rashford before today (I don't really follow football or popular culture, M'lud) but I thought his letter was very moving and well written. As my children will be likely recipients of that, I am grateful. And, yes, it's better to spend £15 per kid / week over the summer than spaff it all on a new paintjob for Boris' plane!

Getting kids fed = bypass official channels and get results.

This is exactly how government is already running, though, isn't it? Dominic Cummings isn't any more an elected official than Marcus Rashford is. Yet apparently government policy is shaped by what he and his wife think about the emails they get. So it's a false dichotomy. Things aren't being done by the 'proper channels' now. Frankly I'd rather have Rashford running the country out of him and
Cummings.

From what I can find out
Rashford started out helping kids near where he grew up relying on Free School meals
and is sort of spread from there.

SHOCKING that a premier league footballer has to be the conscience of the government
when it comes to feeding kids whose parents cannot earn due to lockdown

Not a source I'd usually consult, but...
www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/six-times-marcus-rashford-was-a-better-person-than-all-of-us-put-together/

Rashford has probably spent more on the living costs of those kids than our own PM has contributed to the upbringing of his own second youngest child (by which I mean, the one he won't own up to publicly). What a fucking state of affairs.

Yes, supporting Fareshare or a similar organisation is exactly the kind of thing I think Marcus Rashford should be doing, if that’s what he is doing, that’s all to the good IMO.

Louise
is exactly the kind of thing I think Marcus Rashford should be doing
SINCE WHEN is it the job of sportsmen to feed poor families?
In what parallel universe should he be having to do the job of Government ?

The second that blonde twat opened his gob I got a huge thunder storm, The Gods have spoken - and they ain't happy.

Oh, and Louise , Marcus Rashford received free school meals as a child - he was not born with a silver spoon up his arse like the PM and JRM etc.
it pains me to support a MU player, as a Liverpool fan, but I thank him for his continuous pressure on this terribly out of touch government

And what is the prick waffling on about flattening the sombrero for? Is he aware of a programme called "the News"?

In light of the current debate, I'd rather see a statue to Marcus Rashford than Cecil Rhodes. Especially if we are being Benthameque and looking for the greatest good for the widest population. (Assuming I have grasped utilitarianism right ?).

That said, statues of Florence, Dougal and Brian would also fit that criteria, maybe surrounding one of Eric Thompson ?

It isn’t his job and I haven’t suggested it is. His job is playing football which he does extremely well by many accounts. You might be conflating something I think people should do (give generously if they can) with a persons job?

IMO, families is primarily the responsibility of parents, if for whatever reason they can’t fulfill that responsibility, then it becomes a responsibility everyone shares.

@ListeningQuietly

Louise is exactly the kind of thing I think Marcus Rashford should be doing SINCE WHEN is it the job of sportsmen to feed poor families? In what parallel universe should he be having to do the job of Government ?

Louise sometimes I despair of you I really do, Marcus Rashford is a fine young man & I applaud his actions, at least children will hopefully now not go hungry during the summer holidays, it’s beggars belief that I even have to type that sentence in the 21st century Britain. RIP Jo Cox

The second that blonde twat opened his gob I got a huge thunder storm, The Gods have spoken - and they ain't happy.

I was amused to see Francis Pryor and assorted history experts calling Johnson and Rees Mogg a prat over their lack of historical knowledge recently. I have no idea what JRMs claim to fame is, but I know Boris has tried to pass himself off as a popular historian. Seems he's lost both claims now ...

‘feeding families’ I should have written

@LouiseCollins28

It isn’t his job and I haven’t suggested it is. His job is playing football which he does extremely well by many accounts. You might be conflating something I think people should do (give generously if they can) with a persons job?

IMO, families is primarily the responsibility of parents, if for whatever reason they can’t fulfill that responsibility, then it becomes a responsibility everyone shares.

Everyone apart from the Government, apparently

I have no idea what JRMs claim to fame is
He and Prince Charles are the only two people who wear a double-breasted suit?

He and Prince Charles are the only two people who wear a double-breasted suit?

Fair enough. Not sure it's a profession though.

'tis for Charlie

What about -
He invented the "Mogg Conga", a confusing dance of the early 21st century.

He invented the "Mogg Conga", a confusing dance of the early 21st century.

(puts on dayglo deelyboppers, drops an E and goes) Mogg-eeeee

JRM write a book about the Victorians. By all accounts it was absolute dribbling shite from start to finish. Unsurprisingly.

Werent they called disco biscuits back in the deelybopper days?