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Westminstenders: Where are we now?

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RedToothBrush · 12/06/2020 21:21

Twenty thousand people
Cross Bösebrücke
Fingers are crossed
Just in case
Walking the dead

Where are we now, where are we now?
The moment you know, you know, you know

Just that.

Don't really want to reflect more than that right now.

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AuldAlliance · 16/06/2020 18:14

JRM is working solo on ensuring the survival of an otherwise obsolete form of English accent and pronunciation.
Other than that, and sneering, I'm not sure what he does, TBH.

Pussycatinboots · 16/06/2020 18:48

JRM write a book about the Victorians. By all accounts it was absolute dribbling shite from start to finish. Unsurprisingly.

His autobiography?

missclimpson · 16/06/2020 18:58

I am enchanted by the picture on Twitter of the guarding of the statue of George Eliot in Nuneaton. I have to say they don't look like George Eliot fans but they must have thought he was a good bloke. 😂😂😂

BigChocFrenzy · 16/06/2020 20:47

If you thought BLM was all just about the evils of the USA ...

the UK is much better at covering up its own atrocities when (non-white) colonies demanded independence post-WW2

Don't read this account of British concentration camps in 1950s Kenya unless you have a strong stomach

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/16/boris-johnson-lying-history-britain-empire

Even Eric Griffith-Jones, the attorney general of the colonial administration in Kenya, who was complicit in these crimes, remarked that
the treatment of the inmates was “distressingly reminiscent of conditions in Nazi Germany”.

Thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of prisoners died. Many succumbed to hunger and disease,
including almost all the children in some camps.

Many others were murdered.
Some were beaten to death by their British guards.
One, as the governor of Kenya, Sir Evelyn Baring, acknowledged in a secret memo, was roasted alive.

Others were anally raped with knives, rifle barrels and broken bottles,
mauled by dogs or electrocuted.

Many were castrated, with a special implement the British administration designed for the purpose.
“By the time I cut his balls off,” one of the killers boasted, “he had no ears, and his eyeball, the right one, I think, was hanging out of its socket”.

Some were rolled up in barbed wire and kicked around the compound until they bled to death.

If you know nothing of this history, it’s because it was systematically censored and replaced with lies by the British authorities.

mrslaughan · 16/06/2020 21:11

You don't want to read about what they did to the aborigines in Australia..... it's beyond barbaric.

mrslaughan · 16/06/2020 22:00

Eventually found a version of what I was looking forward...

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Apileofballyhoo · 16/06/2020 22:35

BigChocFrenzy I re-read If This is a Man/The Truce every few years and just finished doing so about a month ago. I don't think I do have the stomach to click your link just judging by your description.

BigChocFrenzy · 16/06/2020 22:54

Bullingdon Brawl
but Cameron is the Day Before Yesterday's Man

Matt Dathan@mattdathan

Boris Johnson says he "profoundly disagrees" with David Cameron's point when it was raised in the Commons just now

Lewis Goodall@lewisgoodall (BBC Newsnight)

Big intervention on FCO/DfID “merger” from David Cameron

  • a man who made the Conservatives’ conversion to foreign aid a central plank of his leadership
and talismanic as to how the party had changed. .... V unusual for Cameron to break with Johnson in such a Public way.

David Cameron@DavidCameron

The Prime Minister is right to maintain the commitment to 0.7

  • it saves lives, promotes a safer world and builds British influence.
But the decision to merge the departments is a mistake.
BigChocFrenzy · 16/06/2020 23:25

COVID in the USA - the market economy for healthcare

Hospital bills for surviving COVID:

$1 million
$ 401,885.57 .....

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/16/coronavirus-hospital-bill-healthcare-america

DrBlackbird · 16/06/2020 23:47

[quote BigChocFrenzy]COVID in the USA - the market economy for healthcare

Hospital bills for surviving COVID:

$1 million
$ 401,885.57 .....

[[https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/16/coronavirus-hospital-bill-healthcare-america]][/quote]
Something to look forward to here then when the NHS is eventually privatised in a FTA...Because we know how well this government adhered to its commitment on chlorine free chicken.

RedToothBrush · 17/06/2020 00:21

Ah the triple lock.

I said in 2016 that I thought it unsustainable due to Brexit. Turns out it'll be covid which does for it.

The dip in pay this year due to the crisis means in theory there would be a huge increase next year, which would bump the pension up to a level that isn't viable. Therefore a suspension of the triple lock for a minimum of 2 years is niw on the table. And quite frankly looks unavoidable. Once it's gone temporarily the chances of it being reinstated are low.

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InMySpareTime · 17/06/2020 05:39

You'd have thought COVID would actually reduce the pensions bill, given the age profile of deaths.

borntobequiet · 17/06/2020 06:21

Maybe it’s that very fact that makes it possible to break the lock without pissing off too many people, SpareTime.

borntobequiet · 17/06/2020 06:21

Speaking as a (non-Tory voting) pensioner.

mrslaughan · 17/06/2020 07:29

Just a Covid question..... someone on Twitter last week noticed that hospital admissions rose, or were rising at the end of last week. I tried to find the numbers last night (I don't watch the press conference - can't bear too) - and I couldn't find them - well not easily anyway. Which I am sure is intentional. Does anyone know where I can find them?

JustAnotherPoster00 · 17/06/2020 07:31

If only there had been someone to vote for who promised to keep the triple lock Grin

SabrinaThwaite · 17/06/2020 07:48

Daily hospital admissions are in the slide sets here, but it’s a faff to download each daily set:

www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences

Graphical summary data for England here:

www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-uk-hospital-admissions/

mrslaughan · 17/06/2020 08:20

Ta Sabrina

RedToothBrush · 17/06/2020 09:02

If only there had been someone to vote for who promised to keep the triple lock

The triple lock has been unsustainable in the long term for some time regardless of who won the election. It will go at some point no matter who is in charge.

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JustAnotherPoster00 · 17/06/2020 09:33

The triple lock has been unsustainable in the long term for some time regardless of who won the election. It will go at some point no matter who is in charge.

Absolutely, I couldnt agree more but it hat been a source of amusement when people over the course of the lockdown have expressed disapointment in their broadband infrastructure (obviously it wouldnt have been sorted by then even if he had got in) or people complaining about benefit/furlough entitlement when Mc Donald is a firm believer in UBI, the pandemic could have been the kick off to a fairer Britain but we'll have the usual shower of shit convinced that free market capatalism is good for the plebs but a bit of socialism for the rich is the done thing

JustAnotherPoster00 · 17/06/2020 09:34

Sorry for all the typos I honestly didnt just mash my hands on the keyboard, no matter what some of you think about my content Grin

BigChocFrenzy · 17/06/2020 10:16

"The triple lock has been unsustainable in the long term for some time"

Without this crisis, imo the Tory party would have continued to give this goodie to the age group which overwhelmingly votes for them,
despite whatever cuts this meant to services for the young (where only a small minority vote for them)

BigChocFrenzy · 17/06/2020 10:17

Yes, totally irresponsible of any govt, but .....

BigChocFrenzy · 17/06/2020 10:19

Talking of which ....

Priti Patel linked with monument protection campaign organiser

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/16/priti-patel-linked-with-monument-protection-campaign-organiser

Home secretary endorsed work of charity boss who runs Facebook page hosting racist comments

Peregrina · 17/06/2020 10:32

This pensioner does not and never has voted for them! But it's not quite as simple - some pensioners are badly off, but others are quite comfortable financially.

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