Westminstenders: Just another DEADline

[RedToothBrush]

Today is the last scheduled day for talks with the EU.

We have til 30th June to ask for a transition extension. We won't.

That leaves us starring down the barrel of a no deal exit, when we still could be in a covid-19 crisis and the US may be in turmoil given recent events and the coming election...

It's not a pretty picture.

PMI with a Venetian rooftop scene from better days.

Nothing else to add except a tip for the loo roll stockpiling problem - install a bidet! No runs on loo roll in Italy at all. I even bought a large amount as BOGOF. Ditto France apparently (according to my Parisian colleagues).

PMI? PMK

It obviously didn’t like my photo either

Well, Red, I think you probably articulate the attitude and outlook that has kept these threads going for as long as they have.

I saw on the news earlier that all the brexit stockpiles have been used up due to covid, and the chances of restocking in time for no deal are zero as the supply chains are too fragmented due to covid. So no deal January is going to be fun.

I agree with Red re leavers, we should not vilify.

A family member who is not terribly well informed voted leave because someone in her Ceramics evening class told her to. She didn’t think about repercussions and just nodded along to the discussions in the after class coffees. It turns out out one of the other students chivvying along the other to vote leave was a local exponent of UKIP. I pointed this out to her when she visited last summer and she was horrified. He seemed like such a nice chap

I suspect a lot of people were taken in the same way. Manipulation of the politically disengaged.

If that, or something like that does come to pass, are there any things we can actually do to mitigate this stuff?!

HI, crunchycarrot , pontypridd I've seriously fucked up quite a few times myself over my nearly 64 years,
when I was charmed or distracted

You've each acknowledged the brainfart

Recriminations are completely unproductive
So let's move on together and warn each other of hidden traps

Pmk

@pontypridd
@Crunchycarrot
So what have you do to try to rectify things?
Written numerous letters to MPs?
Attended marches?
Signed petitions?
Spoken out loudly on SM?

You can't expect Remain voters not to be angry considering the very real damage you have done to their lives and their children's opportunities.
For what it's worth, I used to vote Labour in the 1990s and was even a party member. Then came the Iraq war. I wrote numerous letters to MPs, I marched against the war, cancelled my membership and told them they had lost my vote forever. I suppose I'm just about ready to vote Labour again though.

mashed yes I saw that re medicine supplies too

Doubt it kendodd

They won't get any feelz that way

I am moving on bcf

But i am fucked if I'm taking leavers with me.

So I'm not moving on in a way that you approve of. That's all.

I should add an addendum to my predictions: they only apply to us plebs. The financially independent and rich elite (I.e: the govt) will be just fine*

colouring I've done it all...written letters, marched, posted on SM, campaigned for the labour candidate at the last GE....

Sadly, it's meant fuck all other than being able to look my kids in the eye and say I tried.

Does anyone know why the UK is about the only govt that doesn't sign their briefings?

Brexiteers say new yacht will help Brexit Britain’s economy recover from coronavirus

A floating embassy, to be privately funded - and hence privately controlled
A royal franchise ?
Still looks a very 19 century idea to me

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/yacht-that-brexiteers-believe-will-secure-economic-recovery-1-6683049

Louise I am not feeling very “conned”
Doesn’t it bother you that many of the things Leavers said, are turning out to be untrue?

Hi cat. Nice to hear from you, but, like you, I’m struggling with bitterness and disillusionment. It’s the injustice, racism, continuing Coronavirus shit, incompetent government, misogyny and JRM’s attempt to destroy democracy at Parliament. The prospect of no-deal Brexit and being tied to a shit deal with US. And the lies, lies and more lies...

What can you do and where do you start?

It's not just about the brexit vote though. It started with the coalition in 2010 and the UK's problems have been compounded. 4 general elections, 2 referendums, each resulting in negative outcomes for many people. In some respects the result of the 2019 election was worse than the 2016 referendum because people had 4 years to establish facts. 2019 decided partly because leavers and centrists united in their dislike of Labour expecting they would get what they wanted in the end (it'll be fine). COVID and the worrying events in the US before we even get to brexit seems to have at least united the country in how shit things are and how bad they are going to get.

Mitigation : honestly? No, I don't think so. Sorry.
If you need meds (especially the sort that, ya know , keep you alive....) then you could start trying to source them online or from EU whilst you can.
If the covid-19 outbreak has taught us anything it's to stockpile loo roll, flour and baking stuff, seeds, gardening gear, batteries, clothes for kids in larger sizes and - iffy fb feed is anything to go by - jigsaws!!

were originally granted intellectual property rights

Sheesh, talk about giving away the crown jewels - this is a whole new level of idiocy - even government procurement worked out, many years ago, that consultancies retaining ipr against gov IT projects was an absolute nono.

If they've done this then the NHS will end up having to pay to use its data.

(long ago when GM hived off its IT to EDS, EDS took the data ownership - eventually it got to the state EDS were charging by the byte for GM moving 'its' data across 'its' network.)

@yoikes

Does anyone know why the UK is about the only govt that doesn't sign their briefings?

Because they’re a bunch of wankers yoikes. Someone is trying to take them to court over it www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability-52323854

@yoikes

Does anyone know why the UK is about the only govt that doesn't sign their briefings?

Boris hasn't worked out how to use a crayon yet.

queen
Ffs. Thanks for info.
I'm not hearing impaired but it's such a glaring omission, surely?

pussycat ha!

yoikes yes ditto. I'm trying to work out if there are any steps I can take to minimise the impact of future UK demise....

Me too colouring but I'm not making much progress...

I'm usually an optimist but the past 4 years have pretty much beaten it out of me...