Westminstenders: Just another DEADline

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Today is the last scheduled day for talks with the EU.

We have til 30th June to ask for a transition extension. We won't.

That leaves us starring down the barrel of a no deal exit, when we still could be in a covid-19 crisis and the US may be in turmoil given recent events and the coming election...

It's not a pretty picture.

Great statement by the Bristol police commander - “no regrets”.

Maybe yesterdays events could be the start of a serious and peaceful re-appraisal of similar monuments nationwide ? After all, post Brexit, the UK is clearly changing, so we may as well try and shape that change ourselves.

You know, if this is what "taking bask control" meant all along, they should have sold it better. I'm quite up for some taking back control now. Maybe that could be a slogan for some of the BLM demonstrations ?

Bristol Mayor basically giving the response Starmer should have.

Or maybe not . I think it's critical - indeed imperative - to recognise yesterdays events in Bristol as being a local response to a local situation that may not be appropriate elsewhere. Here in Brum, for example, we don't have much to show in the way of ill gotten slave wealth. We have a statue of a bull. And a floozy in a jacuzzi. And Watt Boulton and Murdock. Oh, and statues of spitfires, miners and chains.

Thinking about it, I suspect the Black Country made a lot of chains for the slavers. Maybe they should look at their coat of arms again ?

Just a point.

When you have 30% youth unemployment, you should start to worry as a government.

You get civil unrest and the chances of revolution sky rocket.

"taking bask control"

Or taking basque control. Nice off-the-shoulder number for Winnie or Thatch?

Like that conical bra we put on Lady Godiva in 84.

I believe the good people of Glasgow favour a traffic cone.

Meanwhile New Zealand is declared Covid -19 free i.e. no more active cases.

But in the UK, we have just decided almost 3 months after the initial lockdown, which only applied to us plebs, that we will quarantine airport arrivals! And our Government is busy frothing about a statue which none of them will have had the first clue about unless they happened to come from Bristol.

You get civil unrest and the chances of revolution sky rocket.

Generally not in the UK though. We just don't do revolution. Even the much vaunted (and subtly rebranded) "civil war" was basically two sets of toffs slugging it out over their control of the plebs. It certainly wasn't a Bastille-storming uprising of the masses.

Mind you, given the absolute omnishambles the current bunch of twats in government have made of everything else, that may be another first Boris can be proud of.

Elements I am sorry to hear of your sudden loss

thank you for posting your 'week in tory' list: it is extraordinary :(

If you’re on Twitter then follow @RussInCheshire for The Week In Tory.

FBI formally requests Prince Andrews presence ...

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-demands-uk-hands-over-22153995

US 'requests UK hands over Prince Andrew to appear in court over Epstein links'

American investigators probing Prince Andrew's paedophile pal Jeffrey Epstein have formally requested the Duke of York be handed over to give evidence.

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pass the popcorn.

Very sorry to hear of you loss elements
❤

US 'requests UK hands over Prince Andrew to appear in court

Swap him for Ann Seculas?

How about a witness exchange?
Andy for Anne Saccolas?

Great Minds, Yoikes. Great Minds.

Well wel.l Nigel Lawson has to chose between paying tax in France to obtain residency, but if he did that he would have to give up his seat in the Lords. Oh dear. What a difficult decision. Now if we had just remained in the EU he would not have this dilemma.

Well wel.l Nigel Lawson has to chose between paying tax in France to obtain residency, but if he did that he would have to give up his seat in the Lords. Oh dear. What a difficult decision. Now if we had just remained in the EU he would not have this dilemma.

Somewhere the worlds tiniest violin is playing.

Charlie Brooker recently said "Doesn't it seem like the cunts have kept rolling sixes these past years ?"

maybe this is a flux reversal. After all if the earths magnetic field can do it, why can't life ?

Ah, old news sorry. I didn't see the date - it came up on my facebook page.

@TheElementsOfMedical - I am so sorry for your loss. I have a friend who has gone through - essentially the same thing, and social distancing has made the whole grieving process very hard. Be kind to your self, and if you need to laugh hysterically..... then that's the best thing for you. 💐💐💐

"WHY isn't there will amongst the public to support the removal of the statu"

Rather like the reluctance to pull down Confederate statues in the USA
Those in power are indifferent to slavery (and some in the US right may wish it had never ended)

Some powerful people may have wealth that was founded by their ancestors on profits from slavery

When such statues remain in public , instead of a museum on the evils of slavery,
then imo it is justified to pull them down

Imagine statues of Hitler and Nazi war criminals still being up in Germany - Jews and supporters here would and should pull them down

Those who have some wealth tend to regard property damage far more seriously than those who have none

Also, many - often rather well-know - posters on the BLM threads fixate on the small % who loot or are violent,
because it is a useful way of trashing the protests without revealing their racism

TheElementsOfMedical I am so sorry for your loss 💐
Even harder to bear when meeting family members in other households is banned

Mockers : I believe the good people of Glasgow favour a traffic cone.

....topical for this thread, here is the Duke of Wellington with his headgear on Brexit Day

Again topically, the building it stands outside (which is now GOMA - the Gallery of Modern Art) was originally built as the townhouse for a Tobacco Lord - one of those who made is fortune from the slave trade.

Interesting relativism of vandalism ...

TheElementsOfMedical so sorry for your loss, what a horrible thing to happen. Look after yourself and your loved ones.

I can't be sad about that statue. I think a lot of the things we've always just walked past need revisiting.

I can't be sad about that statue. I think a lot of the things we've always just walked past need revisiting.

I wonder if a lot of the other similar "discussions" that have been going on for years around the UK find themselves suddenly resolved very quickly ?

I can't help but remember a theme of the last House of Cards was a statue of Mrs T being slowly erected under FUs nose ...

Meanwhile a Bristolian friend of DW has posted on Facebook ... Yesterday we were not destroying history, we were making it. I wonder what her DC make of it ? (I think they are 10 and 7 ...)

There's a prediction of 1 in 4 jobs lost, post-Covid.

I think the chances of civil unrest are very high.

And, as one of the little people, with very little to buffer me from harsh immediacies, I worry.

We have 4 1/2 years of this government - and they are the government - so I just don't feel very relaxed or happy right now.

There was so much resistance to Thatcher - and it made no difference for over a decade. It was just utterly miserable to know how very much you were at variance with the prevailing order, and how unequally power was distributed.