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Westminstenders: Just another DEADline

999 replies

RedToothBrush · 05/06/2020 10:26

Today is the last scheduled day for talks with the EU.

We have til 30th June to ask for a transition extension. We won't.

That leaves us starring down the barrel of a no deal exit, when we still could be in a covid-19 crisis and the US may be in turmoil given recent events and the coming election...

It's not a pretty picture.

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DGRossetti · 08/06/2020 14:48

Still, good day for holocaust deniers

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/ryan-houghton-readmitted-to-the-conservative-party-1-6689490

prettybird · 08/06/2020 15:14

Coronavirus: London reports no deaths of people with COVID-19 in 24 hours http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-london-reports-no-deaths-of-people-with-covid-19-in-24-hours-12002905

WTF does this mean? Confused "No deaths with Coronavirus have been reported in London in the last 24 hours, NHS England says

A small number of deaths did occur, but will be announced in the coming days. " Hmm (my underlining).

pointythings · 08/06/2020 15:14

Yes, but Corbyn, and Labour...

Is there anything the Tories can't get away with? I mean, like eating babies?

DGRossetti · 08/06/2020 15:18

Is there anything the Tories can't get away with? I mean, like eating babies?

As long as they use the right fork.

One thing they demonstrably cannot get away with, is taking any moral high ground. When your PM is Boris, any attempt by him to lecture us on good behaviour is drowned out by the raspberries.

KenDodd · 08/06/2020 15:22

Is there anything the Tories can't get away with?

No. Not even killing us.

Read on Twitter: They could find Madeline McCann under Boris Johnson's floorboards and it would make no difference to his popularity.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 08/06/2020 15:22

Just when you thought Patel couldn't get any more annoying, she's found a way. Shuffling her papers in search of the answer to questions about No Recourse To Public Funds, she jauntily intones, "Misssssssterrrrr Speakarrrrrrrrrr," like this is all a huge laugh.

yoikes · 08/06/2020 15:42

DGR
Grin

MockersGuidedByTheScience · 08/06/2020 15:50

Meanwhile, over in TrumpLand, it's beginning to look a lot like Fascism:

www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/us/politics/unidentified-police-protests.html

DGRossetti · 08/06/2020 15:54

I read the unmarked goons are private prison guards.

UK readers can disabuse themselves of that warm glow of feeling "can't happen here". During the miners strike UK policeman (not paid goons) were caught taking off their ID numbers. (I think there was a World In Action that caught them ·...)

yoikes · 08/06/2020 15:54

cat been saying the same to ds1 (16) today.

I vividly remember the feeling of utter hopelessness and anger as a poor wc girl from the Midlands.

It's how my ds1 feels now and it's so so awful to feel that we have regressed so much as a society.

It's like current Govt policy is from 1980 not 2020...people racially abused on the street, police brutality, schools underfunded, sen funding non existant, nhs on its knees, cuts to the arts, austerity, child poverty rising....I could cry.

I re watched "Dancin thru the dark" the other day...an 80s flick starring the amazing Con O'Neil. The scenes of Liverpool were really shocking - such dereliction and poverty.

It's what the people of places like Liverpool will experience again.

I'm so fucking tired of all this.

ListeningQuietly · 08/06/2020 16:01

DGR
I know people who were at the Battle of the Beanfield
atrocious behaviour by the police
BUT
The UK police do not buy kit from the army and take to the streets
as is the norm in the US Sad

DGRossetti · 08/06/2020 16:06

^The UK police do not buy kit from the army and take to the streets
as is the norm in the US^

There's still time.

And I'm not sure if I should be cheered by the thought that the government bully boy beating my brains out for Boris is doing so with an inferior civilian-grade baton, rather than a shiny army one in camouflage and a quick-release holster. It would still smart.

LouiseCollins28 · 08/06/2020 16:25

“the government bully boy beating my brains out for Boris” Interesting phrase there. Police constables serve the Crown DGR I expected you’d know that.

DGRossetti · 08/06/2020 16:33

Police constables serve the Crown DGR I expected you’d know that.

Yeah, well "the Crown" is a cipher for the government, of which one "Boris" is currently top dog (not a careless simile, by the way). It has no existence without it's government as we discovered last year.

So I'll carry on choosing my words to alliterate as best they can, but note they were also constitutionally and practically correct.

And if I don't really care what instrument of compliance a police officer is using to style my hair, do you really think I give a fishermans friend over the niceties of who they "serve" ?

BigChocFrenzy · 08/06/2020 16:35

The US government "bully boy" has military grade weapons to kill v large numbers of people
and to intimidate 1000s more

I read 10,000 non-violent protestors were arrested
That's very efficient fascism at work, only possible with sufficient military might to conquer the people

DGRossetti · 08/06/2020 16:39

The US government "bully boy" has military grade weapons to kill v large numbers of people and to intimidate 1000s more

A country born of revolution must always fear another, I guess.

Maybe we Brits can be thankful we never did Hmm

Peregrina · 08/06/2020 16:43

I am glad you are back Louise because I asked you a question the other day. Friday evening if you would like to refer back, about a potential deal with the US and how that is better than being in the EU.

DGRossetti · 08/06/2020 16:45

I am glad you are back Louise because I asked you a question the other day. Friday evening if you would like to refer back, about a potential deal with the US and how that is better than being in the EU.

but Corbyn ...

LouiseCollins28 · 08/06/2020 16:46

I just thought you were interested in being accurate. Clearly not.
Hey it’s Priti Patel 😊

DGRossetti · 08/06/2020 16:54

I just thought you were interested in being accurate. Clearly not.

I'm more interested in precision than accuracy.

KonTikki · 08/06/2020 17:02

Interesting point that Louise.
Australia had a prime minister removed in the 70's because the Queen and her representative disproved of him.
The Australian police did not interfere.

The police here swear loyalty to the Crown, and politicians are a long way down their list of favourite things, with the exception of the Blair government that had a cosy working relationship with ACPO.

DGRossetti · 08/06/2020 17:09

The police here swear loyalty to the Crown

And ?

What would happen if her madge asked a police officer to do something, and their commanding officer said not to ?

As I noted upthread, "The Crown" is simply shorthand for "Her majesties government". You can reslide all the letters around all you like, but it never means "The Queen". Never. It's an abstraction. A legal fiction created so that Cromwell and chums could legitimise trying and sentencing their own Monarch.

LouiseCollins28 · 08/06/2020 17:13

Getting tasty in the Commons just now. Priti Patel hitting her stride

Peregrina · 08/06/2020 17:27

Seeing Johnson and Rees-Mogg proroguing Parliament showed us how much authority the Queen had. Now it may be in the normal course of events that a PM who was prepared to listen might have been advised against this. We will never know.

ListeningQuietly · 08/06/2020 17:28

Priti Patel hitting her stride
Just don't give her any big numbers to read out