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Westministenders: Reployed back to No Deal Planning

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RedToothBrush · 18/05/2020 22:52

Now Covid-19 is over (yeah I know right) lots of civil servants who were switched from brexit no deal planning to covid-19 planning have been switched back to their original remit.

For some reason this doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

We've also seen yet another doubling down on the EU not being flexible and how they need to make a deal. And lots of rhetoric about being serious about no transiton planning.

Remember we have something of a deadline looming at the end of next month.

So before we are even out of this crisis, the government have lost interest. Today's press conference was an eye opener - Van Tam openly said that the time taken to get test results was too long and wasn't good enough yet and meant track and trace wasnt still operational despite it being such a crucial factor in being able to go into the next phase as planned on 1st June.

Another deadline we won't make - the Manchester Nightgale still has patients and the local authorities in the NW are going mental. So the government is playing more silly buggers over blame and villianising the evil workshy teachers. Noting the government guidance for teachers on how to teacher children at home says fuck all and the guidance on reopening schools makes a Theresa May dog ate my homework style document look positively well thought out, in terms of practicality. (Not even going to touch on the question of whether its safe - the whether its workable one is more important).

I guess that means things are getting back to normal at least.

A recession looms, but workers rights are now fair game and fully in the government cross hairs - as we see from a lack of PPE for the 'heroes' and the attacks on the teachers. As well as the carers who were sold down river. That'll be the ununionised carers...

Taking back control.

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MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 21/05/2020 16:54

....and the people they all died, but it was the science's fault.

Therese Coffey PhD Cantab

Peregrina · 21/05/2020 16:56

Well, it is all down to Johnson. If he had appointed people who were half way competent, he would have been able to trust them to do the job.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 21/05/2020 16:59

Elections are normally held in May, so come the day, a lot of people will be thinking about the anniversary of their late parents and grandparents etc.

Mistigri · 21/05/2020 17:02

Britain really is a failed state. The Acuri decision is a shocker. There is no longer any consequence for corruption/misuse of public money.

DGRossetti · 21/05/2020 17:04

Well, it is all down to Johnson. If he had appointed people who were half way competent, he would have been able to trust them to do the job.

depends what he thought their job was. Remember Boris has an unconventional relationship with the world of work.

Like those simple folk that thought the Official Secrets Act was to protect secrets, when it's really there to protect officials (nod to Yes Minister there ...)

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 21/05/2020 17:06

Matty says 338 more official Covid deaths. (And never mind the unofficial ones.) But Matty says everything's under control, Gromit Lad.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 21/05/2020 17:08

Aaaaaah, Slides.

Fighting the Apocalypse powerpoint by powerpoint. Feel the Power of Matty's points.

TheElementsOfMedical · 21/05/2020 17:10

Looks like somebody else went in and reported C&P's posts and told her off, so I'm not the only one who found this particular instance of mask-slippage even more objectionable that the usual dog-whistle squirrels. I promise it wasn't me.

pussycatinboots · 21/05/2020 17:10

half way competent
hmm...that's a rather aspirational target, given the current crop of MPs. 5% on a good day with a following wind, maybe...

pussycatinboots · 21/05/2020 17:12

Mockers Matty is turning all the stones over again...

yoikes · 21/05/2020 17:12

Wasn't me either...
That poster prob sees post deletion as a "badge of honour"
How positively Trumpian

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 21/05/2020 17:14

Matty is channeling the spirit of Maester Mandleson, proclaiming the glorious future of as yet undeveloped things that may or may not see the light of day. Aaaaah, SurfBall.

Let's all meet up in the year 2000

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 21/05/2020 17:34

Matty repeats the wording on the Sky ticker verbatim. It is a masterpiece of constructive ambiguity. People hearing it will assume that NHS workers will be exempted as soon as possible. But what it actually says is they will, in the fullness of time, decide at what point in the distant future it is possible for NHS workers to be removed from the scheme.

Because "It is right that they make a contribution."

(They do: They pay tax.)

DGRossetti · 21/05/2020 17:40

Matty repeats the wording on the Sky ticker verbatim

... cupcakes ...

missclimpson · 21/05/2020 17:51

Removal of NHS surcharge: Keir -1 Government 0 😊

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 21/05/2020 17:56

No. BJ says he wants to remove it "as soon as possible," but yesterday we couldn't afford it.

Slippery weasel.

pussycatinboots · 21/05/2020 19:10

Mockers That's insulting to weasels Grin

BigChocFrenzy · 21/05/2020 19:15

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/21/all-the-psychoses-of-us-history-how-america-is-victim-blaming-the-coronavirus-dead

the moment when the US response to coronavirus escalated into a full culture war is revealing.

The big protests at state capitols, with crowds of white Americans demanding their governors reopen the economy, started about a week after national news outlets began reporting in earlyy Aprill that black Americans made up a disproportionate number of the dead.

Systemic racism created the health disparities that made black and brown Americans more vulnerable to dying from coronavirus, public health experts say;
and now the same racism is also shaping, and undermining, the country’s political response to the pandemic.

RedToothBrush · 21/05/2020 19:20

I love a good government u-turn...

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Peregrina · 21/05/2020 19:40

But they haven't u-turned yet.

I want to lose weight as soon as possible. I haven't done yet, and it's not proving very easy!

Jason118 · 21/05/2020 19:43

As long as it's reported that they have, then it's enough. They won't actually do it.

BigChocFrenzy · 21/05/2020 20:07

Hancock get pretty confused sometimes, about policy, promises and keeping government excuses straight,
but I don't know if U-turns by accident count

TheABC · 21/05/2020 20:09

Don't be so sure on the U-turn. I am sure that Keir's team has noted the wording and he will push for it to be honoured.

There was a response on Twitter from him an hour ago.

pussycatinboots · 21/05/2020 20:14

BCF rather apt lapel badge there...

TheABC · 21/05/2020 20:14

The schools (not) reopening is throwing up a dilemma for me. My 6-year has recognised SEN and (I am reasonably sure) dyslexia. He is in year 2, but his attainment levels are those of reception. :-(

School has sent home a few printed sheets, but that's it. I am pushing him to read & write each day but we are getting spectacular meltdowns. With school support ruled out until the autumn, is it worth looking into specialist tutorials? He struggles with attention at the best of times, so I am nervous about spending money on a zoom call he won't engage with.