Please can leavers please tell me how Brexit will benefit us?

[DaveGrohlsMuse]

Whenever this is asked mid-thread, it's never answered. There's plenty of information out there about how the UK had benefited from membership, but I really struggle to find info on how it's had a negative impact.
So in Jan 2021, once the transition period is over and we actually start to see the impact of the decision, what will improve? How will yours, and mine, and the general population's lives improve?

Ireland isn't "repaying" ffs.

The UK benefits by far more than its membership fee. The net payment is less than one percent of public spending.

That's not evidence of the other claims you made

Do you think such counties will officially announce their desire to see the EU broken? In war you never provide the other side with advance notice of attack plans. You just get on with them.

You think other countries that have just signed mutually beneficial trade deals want to break up the EU?

You just make this up as you go along. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Ireland isn't "repaying" ffs

That’s even worse

You think other countries that have just signed mutually beneficial trade deals want to break up the EU

Which countries are you referencing?

Japan and Canada, you know two that you said earlier wanted the EU to collapse.

Unfortunately for you teade blocs with customs unions are the way forward in international trade, there are going to be more of them not less.

Japan and Canada, you know two that you said earlier wanted the EU to collapse

Never mentioned Canada. Japan FTA with EU benefits Japan as they can move manufacturing back to Japan.

In 2017 japan imported 300,000 cars. Nothing compared to the 4.2 million they exported in same year.

Nope you deffo said Japan want the EU to break up.

Oh and Japan probably won't move production from the EU, the partnerships with EU firms on platforms are too intertwined.

They will however leave the UK.

Unfortunately for you teade blocs with customs unions are the way forward in international trade, there are going to be more of them not less

The crystal ball speaks, but never appears?

Wishful thinking by those in the UK motor trade. Honda gone, but officially nothing to do with Brexit. Nissan uncertain too.

Nope you deffo said Japan want the EU to break up

You quoted Canada

Oh and Japan probably won't move production from the EU

What’s the advantage of remaining in EU if they can now sell tariff free?

the partnerships with EU firms on platforms are too intertwined

Renault Nissan alliance wobbly

I said Japan too.

The advantage in staying in the EU is the economies of scale gained with the partnerships they have with EU firms.

Renault/Nissan/Mitsubishi will be fine as will Toyota and PSA and Mazda/Fiat.

Honda is gone because of Brexit.

Nissan will go too as will Toyota, PSA and mini probably too.

Honda is gone because of Brexit.

"Honda CEO says decision to end production in UK not Brexit related."

uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-honda-ceo/honda-ceo-says-decision-to-end-production-in-uk-not-brexit-related-idUKKCN1Q80SF

Yet they were investing prior to brexit, had operated trials of new equipment, equipment was on the water and on the way for new lines.

Poor Clav, your copy and paste doesn't help your critical thinking.

Now what reason might Honda have for denying it was to do with Brexit.

Boris Johnson has put in a call to 'buy British'.

I'm not sure I want to support this jingoistic and nationalist sentiment.

Several reasons given here (Honda):

"The car maker said it is following "unprecedented changes" in the car industry, namely the overtaking interest in electric vehicles."

"It relates to the "increased pace and requirement for electrification," Honda told Euronews."

"Resources and production will therefore be moved to China, Japan and the United States, "where Honda expects to have a high volume of customer demand," the spokesperson added."

"A landmark trade deal between Japan and the European Union that came into effect at the start of the month has led some to believe that this could also have swayed Honda's decision making."

"The deal, which marked the start of the biggest free-trade deal in the world, "effectively removes tariffs on Japanese-built cars imported into Europe," Autocar's deputy editor, James Attwood, wrote."

"That reduces Honda’s need to have a European manufacturing base."

Smart move that EU-Japan trade deal.

Although the same article also quotes Jeremy Corbyn, "the government's disastrous handling of Brexit is letting people down across the country," - of course;
www.euronews.com/2019/02/19/what-are-the-real-reasons-honda-is-closing-its-factory-in-swindon-euronews-answers

Smart move that EU-Japan trade deal

Very smart move.

equipment was on the water and on the way for new lines

Rumours according to the Swindon Advertiser link you previously provided.

Some of you will believe anything that confirms your bias

Some of us know the industry very well and people inside the industry say.

Some of us know the industry very well and people inside the industry say

You’re advertising that Honda knowingly made a false statement. Good that MN is anonymous otherwise you may be tapped on the shoulder.

Did anyone else hear the plan that Nissan has, in case of 'No Deal' Exit from Transition, at end of 2020?

CLOSE their plants in France, Holland, & double production in UK. Coz UK consumers won't be able to afford to buy any imported cars.

Now that is clever indeed.
I like Nissan cars.

lljkk
the FT says its true
other papers say its not
and its contingent on Nissan taking 20% of the full UK car market (they currently have 4%)
so its all rather pie in the sky I suspect

You have assumed that the 27 are all of equal strength. Very incorrect. France, Germany and UK make up 50% of the EU economy

No Mystery that isn't what I said or assumed. Does the UK as a single country have the same level of negotiating clout as a trading bloc made up of 27 countries like the EU ?