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Westminstenders: War and Weirdos

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RedToothBrush · 03/01/2020 21:34

With weirdos set to run No10 and Trump seemingly having started a new war in the Middle East, 2020 already looks set to be a cracking year.

To start off your year, it turns out that chinese curse about interesting times is actually a fallacy...

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times

Happy New Year.

May we make 2030...

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dontcallmelen · 10/01/2020 11:06

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BigChocFrenzy · 10/01/2020 11:39

re Harry & Meghan I think the hate

  • which was whipped up by rightwing media figures as soon as they were engaged -

is because the fiercest monarchists are that way because the RF represents a conservative (small c / large C) bastion in Britain

and they've become unhinged once the rightwing media told them that Meghan had liberal views, invading their bastion

Now it's clear that the monarchy can only ever be for the right, it's time for the rest of us to work to get rid of them all and become a republic

BigChocFrenzy · 10/01/2020 11:39

The monarchy should end when Queenie kicks the bucket

DGRossetti · 10/01/2020 11:45

The monarchy should end when Queenie kicks the bucket

I thought that had already been decided ? Obviously no official notice, but the direction of travel is certain that way.

Songsofexperience · 10/01/2020 11:46

Now it's clear that the monarchy can only ever be for the right, it's time for the rest of us to work to get rid of them all and become a republic

Do we want sweeping constitutional reforms to be undertaken by this government? Would this in fact make much of a difference? Who and how do we appoint as head of state?

Songsofexperience · 10/01/2020 11:48

Also I'm pretty sure Scotland won't want to be part of the Republic of England (looks a bit odd written down!)

DGRossetti · 10/01/2020 11:58

Who and how do we appoint as head of state?

Prez factor the new show from the official Broadcaster of Britain - the BBC.

Mockers2020Vision · 10/01/2020 12:04

The Sucession is determined by act of parliament. Under my plan, King Arry and Queen Sandra will reign for a few years before passing the sceptre to King Frank and Queen Christine.

derxa · 10/01/2020 12:16

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TatianaLarina · 10/01/2020 12:20

Meghan is a virtue signalling idiot.

Oh you’ve met her? Or you’re one of the multitude of batshit witterers on here with strong views on someone they don’t know.

TatianaLarina · 10/01/2020 12:21

The monarchy should end when Queenie kicks the bucket

Yep. Put everyone out of their misery.

DGRossetti · 10/01/2020 12:22

Meghan is a virtue signalling idiot.

I think Meghan is a demonstration that the pool of potential royal breeding mates is shrinking and has become eclipsed by the world of celebrity.

TatianaLarina · 10/01/2020 12:24

Prez factor the new show from the official Broadcaster of Britain - the BBC.

Yay. A bit of song and dance and we’ll all vote.

BigChocFrenzy · 10/01/2020 12:26

Her IQ is likely considerably above that of her inlaws
several of whom have acted far more foolishly - wickedly in the case of andrew

Preaching about climate change, or complaining about how the harassment makes her feel is hardly a reason for all the hate

  • which was whipped up as soon as th engagement was announced, before anyone knew her

Key figures in the rightwing media were determined that the RF remain a conservative bastion

TatianaLarina · 10/01/2020 12:26

I think Meghan is a demonstration that the pool of potential royal breeding mates is shrinking and has become eclipsed by the world of celebrity.

Alternatively - that privilege aside, few in this country eligible for the job would want it. So the answer is find a foreigner with no idea what they’re getting themselves into.

BigChocFrenzy · 10/01/2020 12:27

"I'm pretty sure Scotland won't want to be part of the Republic of England"

My impression is that most Scots don't have this ridiculous fawning attitude towards the RF
and it might even be an inducement for Indy !

BigChocFrenzy · 10/01/2020 12:30

Yep, all these haters claiming she had an evil scheme to use the RF for her career

  • She had no idea of the snakepit she was marrying into and Harry couldn't warn her because the snakepit and the accompanying media hysteria are his "normal"
derxa · 10/01/2020 12:31

Oh you’ve met her? Or you’re one of the multitude of batshit witterers on here with strong views on someone they don’t know. Probably but I judge her on what I've heard her say in public. Empty words from a position of great privilege. Complaining about her life against the backdrop of South Africa where she had met people who have survived real, terrible hardship. I apologise for calling her an idiot because she clearly is not an idiot.

BigChocFrenzy · 10/01/2020 12:35

Several of his previous girlfriends dumped him because of the media circus

  • they learned what they were getting into

Harry and Meghan lived very quietly together under the radar, so she hadn't before experienced the British media on a witch hunt

They want to return to that, but be allowed to earn their own living
i wish all the RF parasites would do so and stop living off granny

Ridiculous at the indignation that a couple in their 30s decided to quit without waiting several more months for his granny's permission
Any other couple would be advised by MN to leave immediately and start a new life

It is a difference that we'll have to pay for their security,
but he was born into being at risk from terrorists and nutters, who won't stop being dangerous just because the couple quit RF duties

derxa · 10/01/2020 12:36

My impression is that most Scots don't have this ridiculous fawning attitude towards the RF and it might even be an inducement for Indy !
You're right about the lack of fawning but we like Princess Anne here. She supports our rugby team despite the woeful results. Charles has his great Dumfries House project. The Queen loves Scotland.
Scotland voted against independence no matter how much you love this romantic idea.

TatianaLarina · 10/01/2020 12:38

Words from anyone in a very privileged position are empty if it comes to it, because they’re insulated from everything.

I think anyone who’s been bullied by the media for a year has the right to say they can’t cope with it. What country they happen to be in when they say so is not really relevant.

We can’t really expect to get bullying under control in schools and workplaces when the media are key proponents of it.

BigChocFrenzy · 10/01/2020 12:39

The whole RF live in great privilege and are completely disconnected from ordinary people

However, rich people should be allowed to say they are unhappy
Otherwise noone in Britain, however poor, could complain about their lives when much of the world is far worse off

I remember Diana bewailing her bulimia when she was visiting a hospice
She hardly got any media criticism for that, but it pissed me off

BigChocFrenzy · 10/01/2020 12:41

I'm not particularly pro-Indy
I just think it's not Scotland that would object to a republic

The monarchy seems very English
and now we know it belongs to the rightwing, noone else allowed in

TatianaLarina · 10/01/2020 12:41

^Ridiculous at the indignation that a couple in their 30s decided to quit without waiting several more months for his granny's permission
Any other couple would be advised by MN to leave immediately and start a new life^

Totally agree.

Man marries American and decides to escape his controlling, authoritarian family by moving to the US - it’s a non story in any other context.

DGRossetti · 10/01/2020 12:43

but he was born into being at risk from terrorists and nutters, who won't stop being dangerous just because the couple quit RF duties

How about the poor people that were killed on London Bridge last year ? Or the Ariadne Grand concert in 2017 ? Or me. Or you ? Why does he get better protection than the people who have to pay for it ?

Every time I think about the fact we have a monarchy, it annoys me that bit more.