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Westminstenders: 10 day count down

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RedToothBrush · 03/12/2019 17:19

10 days to go...

... Wake me up when the shit show is over.

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mrslaughan · 04/12/2019 19:38

Is anyone watching C4 news - the piece about the Australian election campaign- these guys are running Boris's campaign. It is very familiar- and very scary....

KeithPartridge · 04/12/2019 19:39

I'm in NI and have made a point of asking people at work about the election next week. I know they might be 'shy' but I'll just go by their answers anyway.

I work with people from all over NI. I asked about 80 people and around 90% said they wouldn't be voting as they are so fed up with the DUP and Sinn Fein and that Westminster has totally abandoned them so they care nothing for it. The handful that would vote said Alliance. They care so much about the crap of Brexit but feel helpless as it is ALL about how England votes. That is EXACTLY how I feel.

Piggywaspushed · 04/12/2019 19:40

Whoops sorry yolo

But, then again, I am one of the little girls who had to practise nuclear drills.

We went on a jolly school trip to the American base once and went on a nuclear sub. As you do.

yolofish · 04/12/2019 19:43

no worries piggy yes I too have been on many a nuclear sub, including "cockers p's" in the main control room where the periscope is. weird as fuck.

Piggywaspushed · 04/12/2019 19:44

It's a small world!

I did have a friend from the base, to be fair. It wasn't you, though, as she went to Hermitage with me.

dreichXmas · 04/12/2019 19:45

@yolofish not everyone hated you. We had submarine visits sometimes and they were always popular.
Just watching them pootle around was pleasing.
( I didn't live in the most happening place)
During our teenage years the sailors in uniform were particularly popular!

Piggywaspushed · 04/12/2019 19:46

Not also from Helensburgh??

dreichXmas · 04/12/2019 19:46

A very select few from school were specially chosen to visit the sub. (That didn't include me)

derxa · 04/12/2019 19:46

thecatfromjapan I read that article about the Thanet Head teacher.
I'm sure what he says is true. DH and I started our married life there and lived in Cliftonville in a very horrible flat. However that photo of the two children near a run down house was not taken in Thanet. Someone else gave me link to an article about child poverty in Lanarkshire (Scotland) and there was the exact same photo (not taken in Lanarkshire either).
Two constituencies I've lived and worked in. The Scottish one long decades of Labour and now SNP and the Thanet one decades of Sir Roger Gale Tory. I'd say the people were let down equally by everybody in both places. Clifonville was hit hard by the laughable 'Care in the Community' policy where vulnerable adults were chucked into horrible accommodation. High need families were also placed there because there was a lot of ex holiday accommodation.

tobee · 04/12/2019 19:50

I'm a unilateralist. Have been since I can remember. Tried to argue with people who are multilateralist who say that unilateralists are relying on others protecting them and it is morally wrong. The fact that the world has many weapons to blow us all up many times over doesn't wash. And we have the nuclear weapons to avoid war.

dontcallmelen · 04/12/2019 19:53

MrsLaughan I watched it, yes very familiar & scary

Piggywaspushed · 04/12/2019 19:55

I think Jo is putting up a pretty good fight on Andrew Neil , to be fair, although he has left the awkward questions about her voting til last....

JustAnotherPoster00 · 04/12/2019 19:55

Id add tobee that the nature of war has changed so much that they are rendered obsolete before they leave the silo and lets be honest us poor folks and others like us who have more in common with each other than we do with those who are likely to launch them wont be the ones taken to some secure bunkers for our safety

dreichXmas · 04/12/2019 19:56

@Piggywaspushed Helensburgh was thought to be rather a rather smart place if you were living in Rothesay !

Piggywaspushed · 04/12/2019 19:56

I get the impression many LDs were rendered abjectly miserable by their time in collation with the Tories.

Piggywaspushed · 04/12/2019 19:57

Oooh... Rothesay! School trips and ferry rides and ice cream!!

Alsohuman · 04/12/2019 19:59

AN seems to be giving Swinson an easier time than he gave Corbyn - or is that my bias?

JustAnotherPoster00 · 04/12/2019 19:59

Jeremy Corbyn for PM
@JeremyCorbyn4PM
🔥 Wow watch this! Tory lies have become the key feature of #GE2019. No wonder Boris Johnson is too scared to be interviewed by Andrew Neil. #VoteLabour 🌹

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AgeLikeWine · 04/12/2019 20:03

Neil is tearing Swinson apart over her voting record in government. Quite rightly so. I’m sympathetic to the Lib Dems, but they are still paying the price for jumping into bed with their natural political opponents.

ChristmassySpice · 04/12/2019 20:06

Also have links to Faslane via Dads rather senior position in the Navy back in the late 60s and early 70s. Was handy as we loved NE coast of England. Holidayed in Scotland West coast. I remember waving to the guys standing atop the submarines! Mum and Dad were also stationed in Portsmouth.
I've also been unilateral since a debate in my RE class circa 32 yrs ago.

For what it's worth, I think Jo did a pretty fair job tonight with Andrew Neil. Maybe he went soft on her because he knows she's not going to win the election. Philip Schofield was pathetic in his interview with JC. Like his producer wanted him to go full on hard journo style. It was cringey.

And to answer am I more pro Corbyn now since media are hellbent on destroying his credibility in any way possible. God yes. I've been a Lib Dem voter almost all my life, but I'd happily marry JC.
Also I'm another who could cry wrt the Dispatches programme on the poor. Never mind what I see in everyday life. I wish people would vote rather than be apathetic. I hold out a lot of hope in the younger voters.

ArseDarkly · 04/12/2019 20:06

I'm not sorry for her. For ages the LD's peddled the line that they had somehow tempered the excesses of Tory policy in Coalition and if it wasn't for them it would have been much worse.

Certainly not true in Swinson's case.

thecatfromjapan · 04/12/2019 20:07

derxa The picture will have been purchased (in license) from a picture agency, I should think.

The picture editor will have emailed the agency asking for something to go with the story, the agency person who deals with their account at the picture selection level will have sent a selection over (by email) and then the picture editor selected their favourite.

Alternatively, the picture editor may have simply used access to an on-line bank of stock photos (access purchased in bulk, annually) and just chosen one that seemed to convey the content of the story.

Newspapers just don't have the resources for an actual photographer to go off and take a picture for little stories like this. I don't think even local newspapers do these days.

But you could try writing a letter to the editor: 'Dear Madam/Sir, My attention was drawn to the photograph accompanying your story on deprivation and education in Thanet. I feel I must inform you that this photograph did not, in fact, portray children in Thanet ...'

I'm sure it will result in an email exchange between the picture desk and the picture agency.

Outsomnia · 04/12/2019 20:09

Has to be the easist platform for the Tories now.

Where the F is Brexit?

Just goes to show how much Brexit applies now. ie nowhere really in the great scheme.

That's what the winners will rely upon IMV.

Anyway what the F happened to to FTPA? Seems it can be conned left right and centre now anyway.

mrslaughan · 04/12/2019 20:09

I caught the end of the Jo Swinson Andrew Neil interview - I am not sure he went easy on her, but she has got better in these situations as the campaign has gone on, she answered questions , and calm. Which is a bugger as I wanted her to kiss me off after her gender/sex/passport declaration today

KeithPartridge · 04/12/2019 20:14

JS was on The Jeremy Vine Show on Radio 2 today as well...I have rarely heard him so pissed off. He was questioning her about her voting record and sounded mad as hell. Much as I dislike Jo and utterly condemn her disgusting stance in Self ID, she was very good at answering him. Very calm and collected.