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Westminstenders: 10 day count down

999 replies

RedToothBrush · 03/12/2019 17:19

10 days to go...

... Wake me up when the shit show is over.

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squid4 · 04/12/2019 17:32

I have never heard the trans issue discussed outside of mumsnet, for what it's worth. (Other than a generic "we should support LGBTQ rights" type comment)

tobee · 04/12/2019 17:37

BrewThanksinstead of choc squid?

I've heard quite a few people talk about trans in the last year while out and about! Not me instigating the chat either! Grin

Apileofballyhoo · 04/12/2019 17:38

Had a news free day today. The house is now much cleaner. Wouldn't be hard. I think a break is a good thing, though it's all very well for me to say it, over here in Ireland (republic of).

squid4 · 04/12/2019 17:39

coffee (all the coffee) and flowers are lovely thank you!!

Stinkyeddie · 04/12/2019 17:51

My postal vote was posted last week...

So I'm happily ignoring all of it.

It's great. I recommend it :)

Listening to boris would actually make me ill I think Envy

tobee · 04/12/2019 18:00

Feeling constantly on edge. Beginning to realise an upcoming Election Day/ night, preparing for holiday the week before Christmas and Christmas itself not a very relaxing combo! ShockConfused

squid4 · 04/12/2019 18:03

DP's just home and I just asked him if he's trying to be positive to get me through and he denies it completely and says he follows 1000s of political accounts and talks to loads of people on the ground campaigning and he sees nothing that leads to a tory majority except the polls, and that no one can give him a compelling argument except "the polls". And he thinks it's bullshit. Methodology is (deliberately) dodgy, there's so many undecideds, undecideds tend to go for labour, tend to be female, tend to be younger, 60% of under 35s have said they are 100% certain to vote (polls put them as 10-30% turnout), etc etc.

He says his mates have been open (not shy) tories forever and he doesn't see why they would pretend to vote otherwise now. They are not just not voting tory, they are toying with labour, and mainly voting green (which surprised me)

For the record he has never been very political before, nor me, we both always voted (not labour historically) but did not follow it like this or campaign, nor did hardly any of my peers when young, I think the junior doctor strikes a few years ago that I was involved with heavily politicised us both, and my work, seeing the impact of my job, but I also think the young are political currently, in a way they weren't when I was a kid.

I know all of that is just anecdotal.

I need to sleep and go back to work...

JustAnotherPoster00 · 04/12/2019 18:04

tobee dear god all of that combined would find me rocking in a corner muttering to myself

Stinkyeddie · 04/12/2019 18:08

Dh just not political. Never has been. Amazingly, given his job, not worried about Brexit either...
Ds1 takes after me in his interest in politics ;)

tobee · 04/12/2019 18:12

GrinJust I'm a fool to myself!

placemats · 04/12/2019 18:13

May the force of all the love from MN be with you Squid. Much love. xx

HesterThrale · 04/12/2019 18:14

I was 60% Green, 20% each Labour and LD on Vote for Policies.

Greens have some great policies. Across the country they seemed to score well. I wish we had a more representative voting system so they could get more MPs.
In 2015 they got 3.8% of the vote, which should mean 25 seats. Probably even more would vote for them if they thought they had a chance.

voteforpolicies.org.uk

prettybird · 04/12/2019 18:19

As far as I can make out, Jo Swinson has never had any connection with Helensburgh Confused - she was born in Glasgow and brought up in Milngavie, going to Douglas Academy, the local state school (which I actually should have gone to when we came back from NZ and bought a house in Milngavie but we got exemption from zoning as it was called back then and went back to our old school, Bearsden Academy).

Helensburgh is over 20 miles from Milngavie, outwith the Glasgow conurbation and in a separate parliamentary constituency.

Milngavie/Bearsden/the East Dunbartonshire constituency/the Glasgow conurbation are however all downwind of Helensburgh/Faslane and nuclear conveys secretly go through the centre of Glasgow HmmAngry

BigChocFrenzy · 04/12/2019 18:35

squid The NHS survives only due to the dedication of doctors & nurses like you, running themesleves into the ground.
You must weep with fatigue and despair sometimes
but your work is truly appreciated, especially on Westministenders 💐👏🏼

< sets mousetrap with Lindt bait for tealeafing poster
Whack !
Can squid sew fingers back on ? Hmm >

tobee · 04/12/2019 18:36

Mice love choccy and peanut butter 🐁

Stinkyeddie · 04/12/2019 18:40

squid Flowers

Outsomnia · 04/12/2019 18:41

TBH in my mind (and that is no reflection on OP or contributers), Brexit has gone by the wayside now.

It is all about Labour or Tory. FPTP you see, and tactical voting aside although it may help.

Brexit does not seem to be a real issue at all now, but it will be. As we know.

Some may be swayed by the B word, but it seems to me it is all Tory/Labour/Libs now and their policies, anything but Brexit.

Was ever going to be thus really. We have moved on a bit towards real life on the ground now.

I say this as a rabid (did you hear me?) rabid Remainer!

yolofish · 04/12/2019 18:45

re the NHS. DB and I have a major meeting with our local trust on Friday morning, following DM's death in November 2018. I have just read through the 11 pages of notes I kept from early June until she died.

It is very shocking... what springs out to me is how the elderly are treated (or perhaps not treated once they've left A&E and got onto a ward). I can highlight exceptional care (one ward in particular, all the paramedics and A&E people) but also some truly appalling care.

I am sure some of it is down to money, ie not enough staff, but some of it is down to lack of care or interest, that because people are old they somehow don't matter so much.

I don't want to be old under any govt, but particularly not under a Tory one.

thecatfromjapan · 04/12/2019 19:10

Brexit is still very much live in the doorstep here, Outsomnia.

It's also the only plank in Johnson's manifesto.

BigChocFrenzy · 04/12/2019 19:17

Brexit is obviously very much an issue for Labour Leavers
People saying vote Tory just this once to "get Brexit done"

placemats · 04/12/2019 19:21

I'm having for my dinner good old fashioned beef stew with dumplings. It's delicious.

I'm heartened with all the voter tactics and a huge thank you from me to all those who are involved.

Get. Johnson. Out!

chomalungma · 04/12/2019 19:22

The nuclear question is a very strange one.

Many countries in the world seem to cope without them, and the expense of having them.

I can see that we have such a powerful weapon that no one would want to attack us because we have such a weapon.

But I can see plenty of scenarios where a nuclear weapon would be useless and no deterrent.

This question deserves more than a soundbite answer.

placemats · 04/12/2019 19:23

People saying vote Tory just this once to "get Brexit done"

And of course that's not going to happen.

Come the next general election in April 2020, will they change their minds?

Piggywaspushed · 04/12/2019 19:26

pretty, I am from Helensburgh.

I swear I read she was born there, or lived there. Don't think I am confusing her with anyone else.

yolofish · 04/12/2019 19:33

have to claim a Helensburgh association... my Dad was Navy, and responsible for the opening of Faslane, then we went back some years later when he was even more senior. We knew everyone hated us (for making Faslane the biggest nuclear target in the then world). As a little English girl in Rhu primary school, it was quite tough.