Westminstenders: Massive Rightwing Plot?

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Tonight 10pm

YouGov MRP.

First big poll

Rumour is that it shows a big tory majority.

This would fit with two MRP polls that are already out if accurate.

Datapraxis is suggesting a Tory majority of 48.

Best for Britain (Pro remain) is suggesting a majority of 57.

www.newscientist.com/article/2224783-what-is-mrp-and-can-it-predict-the-result-of-the-uk-general-election/
What is MRP and can it predict the result of the UK general election?

It stands for multi-level regression and post-stratification. Its a polling method which uses demographic data to work out how people will vote. YouGov used it to accurately predict the 2017 result and the method was used to predict the 2016 US election.

Lol a plopper telling someone else to be quiet, offers nothing to the thread but usual Guido sound bites and seems to post in the exact same style as other poppers it’s almost like plopped have a bullet point list, although who doesn’t love a good bullet point list

Very wise. If you click it your brain will turn to mash.

Dailymash is a well known .. paradody? comedic anyway news site. It keeps me sane. I can't stand Shriver.

Ah, name changed since yesterday, I see.

Out of curiosity why do so many people on MN spell bollocks wrong?

JOBrienbx and their earlier alter ego JoannaOBrien seem to have a retro obsession with unions.

It's like being in a time warp. Unions have been hugely disempowered by years of Conservative red tape. For example the 2016 Trade Union Act put huge restrictions on union members, including:
• High thresholds in industrial action ballots.
• Complex new balloting rules restricting industrial action.

You'd think with more casual work in the gig economy that protections to employment conditions for working individuals would be a good thing? With more insecure casual work safety at work, and job security becomes very fragile. As predicted as a result of the ref wages are already stagnating which bodes ill for workers and the economy.

So surely Labour getting limited funds from workers with union membership and defending workers' rights is a good thing.

What the fans of the new Conservative party never address is why union funding is bad but unlimited funds from Putin's friends is ok!

As a reminder:

Alexander Temerko £1.2 million

Lubov Chernukhin £1,218,482.40

Alexander Knaster former ceo of Russian bank - £455,000

Lev Mikheev- managed Putin allies money £212,000

Evgeny Lebedev- favours and holidays

With more detail to follow once the report the Prime Minister suppressed is released.

Just to be clear for any irregular visitor the Russian funding listed in my earlier post are proven recent donations to the Tory party not Labour!

Btw I now refer the new Tory party to make it clear to traditional Tory voters that the days of moderate one nation conservatism designed to benefit the ordinary person are dead.

We have some true blue sort of cousins who are out faithfully Tory leafleting. They are still thinking that the new breed of Tories are still Disraeli like (?) and support passing on benefits for the good of the more modest in society. It reminds me of Boxer in Animal farm working faithfully and tirelessly and so sorely mistaken.

Sorry JoB I rarely make sharp posts in fact. Its just a bit exasperating when no one responded to the Tory Russian funding point I made 24 hours ago. It was in response to the exact same posts about the unions.

Richard Osman
@richardosman
·
Nov 27
There would be huge ratings in a half-hour show where Andrew Neil goes through the questions he WOULD have asked Boris, and puts them to some interesting fact checkers instead. Let’s just do that.

I can see this going the way of the 1980s elections when Michael Foot was labour leader as people just don't like Jeremy Corbyn and believe it'll all be ok with the tories as ' his better than the alternative ' even if ( deep down) they know it won't! Once the NHS is sold off and it all goes wrong and they get rid of Boris in a few years time, then they might wake up a bit. (The die hard tories will still claim it's all labour's or someone else's fault though)

The Labour Party need a new leader after this election and complete reform. Let's hope JC steps down graciously , if it comes to that.
I am dreading two weeks today if these polls are correct. Still hoping for a hung parliament. It's the only hope of maybe salvaging something and wiping the smile from the Tories. The 1922 committee will be not be happy either.
I can see a Tory majority coming though.

I am taking a moment on this sad last couple of days to remember the events of Hillsborough and to recall our affable PM's 'journalism' on the events.

Oh, but it's just journalism, isn't it?

gosh

these threads used to be a treasure trove of information. these days it's rather unpleasant with many (more) personal digs.

as if an election is near and parties have sent their crews on a mission.

I don't know if this has already been shared

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/28/radical-left-power-election-uk-occupy-labour

Interesting international angle on the labour movement. It's easy to get bogged down in our local and national issues here, but if I think about the Labour Party of today compared to virtually any other iteration during my life this is the one I have felt most aligned to (I'm mid 30s btw)

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/28/ifs-manifesto-labour-economy-investment

from the above article

What a difference a week makes. Last week, the Institute for Fiscal Studies made many of the front pages with a partisan and breezy dismissal of Labour’s plans as “simply not credible”. Today, in its analysis of the three major parties’ manifestos, it conceded that Labour’s “vision is of a state not so dissimilar to those seen in many other successful western European economies”. Public spending would be at a lower share of national income than Germany and many other European countries.

"these threads used to be a treasure trove of information. these days it's rather unpleasant with many (more) personal digs."

The ploppers come on at election time with the deliberate aim to disrupt and provoke

Scroll on by 🎶🎵🎵🎶

< sprays Raid around thread >

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BJ's racist "jokes":

Lewis Goodall@lewisgoodall

Muslim woman on #bbcqtt^ says she received abuse in the street after PM wrote his comments comparing burqa wearing women to “letter boxes”.

“Words like that have consequences”, she says.

Britain Elects@britainelects

There are 67 seats in which the Conservatives or Labour lead by just five points over one another,
and two weeks to go

How many time do I need to tell you people I'm not a plopper I just say ploppy things

< wipes Raid off poster, applies Lindt 🍫 >

Michael Rosen
@MichaelRosenYes
· 5h
"Goldman Sachs with its fingers in every pie..."
Can we please have a free pass for Mr Cummings? (can you imagine what @peston @freedland @lordjohnmann would have said if a Labour person had said that about Goldman Sachs?!) twitter.com/TheBirmingham6/status/1200216033241501696

(Sniffs suspiciously..)

In my 2050 manifesto I propose that all households should and will have a lindt drawer, our nation deserves the chocolaty goodness only lindt can provide

Please vote for your supreme ruler **

(**All elections have been suspended because we dont trust any of you to vote)

BJ can chicken out of leadership debates, but it's difficult to send his dad to a NATO summit !

Sam Lowe@SamuelMarcLowe

It’s an odd situation.

The Brexit strategy is to create enough space between UK and EU so as to do a trade agreement with the US

But talking about a trade agreement with the US (the reason Johnson’s Brexit deal looks like it does) is not viewed as being a vote winner.

Tom Newton Dunn@tnewtondunn

Excl:
Worried Tory campaign chiefs are trying to ensure Boris Johnson and Donald Trump don’t appear in public together at NATO summit in London next week.

POTUS seen as toxic to Tory campaign.

Tory chiefs fear loose-tongued Donald Trump could blow up their election campaign when he visits Britain next week

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10446267/boris-johnson-donald-trump-visit-uk-general-election/amp/?

Ok everyone, who said the following:

Working class men are “likely to be drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless”.
And the children of single mothers are “ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate”.

Was it:

A: Jeremy Corbyn
B: Jo Swinson
C: Boris Johnson