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Westminstenders: Register to Vote

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RedToothBrush · 24/11/2019 21:25

The closing date for registration is this Tuesday

The weekend has seen the leaders question time debates.

Johnson failed to answer a question and the BBC edited later edited footage to change laughter at him to applause.

Swinson continues to prove that the Lib Dem campaign planners don't understand the electorate. They based the campaign around her and the more the public see her and the more she opens her gob she proves she's the witless headgirl who really knows fuck all.

Corbyn has now adopted a neutral 2nd referendum position. Far too late.

Jo Johnson apparently said that a good election manifesto is one people aren’t talking about 48 hrs later, and it seems that the Conservatives really have gone for that strategy.

Johnson had promised a manifesto for change yet of the three main parties it seems far from that. It avoids controversy for the most part, but also doesn't offer solutions to some of our biggest problems like social care. But with the Tories so ahead in the polls, the status quo and making sure they don't have a repeat of the 'dementia tax' car crash seems to be the order of the day. Because Brexit is going to going to provide a magic solution instead...

Meanwhile the Labour Party have gone completely the other way and really have gone for it and come up with ideas. With a mixed response from the public and press.

And I still can't tell you what is in the LD one, cos Prince Andrew...

This week should see the election come into focus as postal voting starts. As it stands its hard to bet on anything but a Tory majority.

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BaloneyInMySlacks · 26/11/2019 14:57

Voters registering since Election announced:

2017 Election (announced 18/04/17, last registration 22/05/17, 35 days)

U25 1,051,308
25-34 972,680
35+ 914,281 2,938,269

2019 Election (29/10/19 - Midnight 25/11/19, 28 days)

U25 1,159,433
25-34 965,631
35+ 1,066,103 3,191,167

Source www.gov.uk/performance/register-to-vote/registrations-by-age-group

Maybe I messed up the calculations?

There's still a day to go.

Dusty01 · 26/11/2019 15:00

Don't know anything much about Twitter - but do you think Michael Gove is trying to increase his followers with that tweet? It seems like a deliberate ploy - either to distract away from something or attract attention.

It's been on there a long time and had thousands of retweets and replies etc - not sure it's having the effect that he wanted, but then again he hasn't deleted it ...

BaloneyInMySlacks · 26/11/2019 15:03

Well that was meaningless!

2017 Election (announced 18/04/17, last registration 22/05/17, 35 days)

U25: 1,051,308

25-34: 972,680

35+: 914,281

TOTAL: 2,938,269

2019 Election (29/10/19 - Midnight 25/11/19, 28 days)

U25: 1,159,433

25-34: 965,631

35+: 1,066,103

TOTAL: 3,191,167

Mistigri · 26/11/2019 15:06

Baloney - in 2017 over half a million people registered on the last possible day before the election. We don't yet have the figures for today!

BaloneyInMySlacks · 26/11/2019 15:09

I realise that, I'm just surprised how similar the totals are so far, considering the previous comments about how many more youngsters are registering.

Mistigri · 26/11/2019 15:14

I'm just surprised how similar the totals are so far

If you strip out the inscriptions on the final day then I reckon this year is running about a third higher.

Peregrina · 26/11/2019 15:16

The Labour party deserves to form the next UK government
and the FT article by Blanchflower and others.

We are in desperate need of people of vision, who can work cross party, as we had during WW2 with the publication of the Beveridge Report and the War time coalition.

TheMShip · 26/11/2019 15:22

Based on the numbers at @BaloneyInMySlacks 's link, there should be a massive surge in registration today.

22 May was the last day to register for the 2017 election, and it saw a surge of 622,389 registrations.

Counting from 7 April 2017 when the election date was first mooted, there were 3,208,908 registrations (2,586,519 excluding 22 May).

Similarly from 29 October 2019, there have so far been 3,191,167 registrations, similar to the total number for 2017. If there is a similar surge today, we could see close to 4 million registrations.

Interestingly in 2017, the registrations up to but not including the last day were 67%

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JustAnotherPoster00 · 26/11/2019 15:37

Oh god are they so self unaware, third election of using the same slogans after the last 2 years of an actual coalition of chaos, were would we be now if the Milliband and Salmond coalition had happened

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“Do you want to wake up on Friday 13th December and find a nightmare on Downing Street… a Corbyn-Sturgeon coalition of chaos?”

Boris Johnson says a Labour-SNP coalition would “waste 2020 on two more referendums” over Brexit and Scottish independence.

twitter.com/i/status/1199339135720292352

Peregrina · 26/11/2019 15:43

“Do you want to wake up on Friday 13th December and find a nightmare on Downing Street… a Corbyn-Sturgeon coalition of chaos?”^

If Sturgeon did have a Westminster seat, then yes, she might be able to knock some sense into Corbyn.

bellinisurge · 26/11/2019 15:46

My non-money is currently on a hung parliament where at least one referendum (touch of the Alan Sugar, there Smile) is the price of government.

bellinisurge · 26/11/2019 15:49

And I think Johnson would go into coalition with whoever it took to keep the Tories in government.
Sturgeon and Swinson would go into coalition with whoever would give them a referendum.

HesterThrale · 26/11/2019 15:49

There has been a “huge increase” in voter registration compared to the 2017 general election, according to the Electoral Reform Society.

38% increase in registrations on 2017.

67% of registrations have been voters under 35.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-voter-registration-spike-boris-johnson-jeremy-corbyn-labour-conservative-a9218471.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3dqCEBj3KbqtMjzMs6idZc3F8lqD6tBD6FrPCfwaWtD9fO0rx-4zIhEFY#Echobox=1574778884

DGRossetti · 26/11/2019 15:49

My non-money is currently on a hung parliament

I still think that's the best outcome.

TheMShip · 26/11/2019 15:52

67% of registrations have been voters under 35

The data shows that proportion is no different from 2017.

DGRossetti · 26/11/2019 15:54

And I think Johnson would go into coalition with whoever it took to keep the Tories in government.

The problem there is the Tories have used up their 3 wishes. A Tory-Labour arrangement is unthinkable. The LibDems will tell them to jog on (unless revocation of A50 is on the table) and the SNP will make a play of insisting on a referendum, but with their fingers crossed. Leaving our chums the DUP (if they have enough of anything to offer) and a few ragtag independents. Maybe that elusive Brexit Party MP.

The old saying about being nice on the way up, as you'll meet people on the way down was never so acutely appropriate ...

bellinisurge · 26/11/2019 15:55

Pretty sure if Johnson offered Swinson a second referendum, she's go for it in return for a bit of confidence and supply voting until that went tits up.

TheMShip · 26/11/2019 15:55

Also from that article However, since you cannot check whether you’re registered already, we estimate over a million of the registrations we’ve seen are likely to be duplicates.

Still quite a large proportion of new ones though, and I would bet that the new ones are more likely to be

Alsohuman · 26/11/2019 15:57

Totally, DGR. The DUP has been shafted once and may not have enough seats to make a difference. There’s nobody left to support Johnson, especially as several independents are likely to be the moderate ex Tories he kicked out. Of course he could lose his seat, would that make a difference?

Random18 · 26/11/2019 16:00

I do wonder what sturgeon would do.

I am a Scot not living in Scotland. I was a Unionist and probably do still believe in the UK unless we No Deal. But my belief in the UK is not what it once was.

I have been annoyed at times when we have the biggest fight of our lives and Sturgeon and the SNP just bang on about Independence.

If Nicola did a deal with BJ just to get her referendum then I think that's unforgivable. Unless a referendum on the EU is included of course.

She would be throwing lots of Scots under the bus.

She deserves a referendum if Brexit happens but she has a duty to the Scottish electorate to keep then in the EU. That needs to be the priority.

There was a clear mandate for Scotland remaining in the EU and she needs to respect that.

tobee · 26/11/2019 16:04

So who asked the chief rabbi to pipe up? There's been a lot of play made by Tories on Labour's anti semitism in the last few days.

Alsohuman · 26/11/2019 16:04

If Nicola did a deal with BJ just to get her referendum then I think that's unforgivable

Scotland was just about the first place Johnson got booed and heckled in this campaign. If the Tories lose all their seats in Scotland, how could the SNP do a deal that went against most of its electorate? And would anyone with an ounce of sense trust him?

prettybird · 26/11/2019 16:07

dreichwinter - I have no personal issue with joining the Euro Smile, but the plain fact is that we can't join the Euro straight away anyway Confused: first of all we have to prove our stability with our own Central Bank (whether or not, like Irish did with the punt, we choose to shadow the £ Sterling initially) and have to meet the fiscal requirements before joining the Euro (that I'm not sure that even the UK even under the Conservatives Wink meets Hmm).

Iirc, it's no longer a requirement for accession states to commit to join the Euro anyway (once they meet the criteria Wink) but Sweden, who did commit to join, for some strange reason keeps just Wink missing the criteria. Grin