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RedToothBrush · 24/11/2019 21:25

The closing date for registration is this Tuesday

The weekend has seen the leaders question time debates.

Johnson failed to answer a question and the BBC edited later edited footage to change laughter at him to applause.

Swinson continues to prove that the Lib Dem campaign planners don't understand the electorate. They based the campaign around her and the more the public see her and the more she opens her gob she proves she's the witless headgirl who really knows fuck all.

Corbyn has now adopted a neutral 2nd referendum position. Far too late.

Jo Johnson apparently said that a good election manifesto is one people aren’t talking about 48 hrs later, and it seems that the Conservatives really have gone for that strategy.

Johnson had promised a manifesto for change yet of the three main parties it seems far from that. It avoids controversy for the most part, but also doesn't offer solutions to some of our biggest problems like social care. But with the Tories so ahead in the polls, the status quo and making sure they don't have a repeat of the 'dementia tax' car crash seems to be the order of the day. Because Brexit is going to going to provide a magic solution instead...

Meanwhile the Labour Party have gone completely the other way and really have gone for it and come up with ideas. With a mixed response from the public and press.

And I still can't tell you what is in the LD one, cos Prince Andrew...

This week should see the election come into focus as postal voting starts. As it stands its hard to bet on anything but a Tory majority.

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BigChocFrenzy · 24/11/2019 21:57

I wouldn't count George Canning, as the poor sod couldn't help dying in office

It wasn't as if Canning was rejected by the electorate, iyswim

TokyoSushi · 24/11/2019 21:57

Oh! That was supposed to be a sad face, but I suppose flowers will do!

Zxyzoey31 · 24/11/2019 21:58

If the Tories lose a bit more, say 30ish which they could do from Scotland, London, Sw and a few commuter belt and gain a bit less in the north it could be a bit tight.

Peregrina · 24/11/2019 22:04

Let's hope it's tight and that Johnson, Deadwood, IDS and a few other horrors lose their seats.

BoreOfWhabylon · 24/11/2019 22:12

pmk

borntobequiet · 24/11/2019 22:13

PMK thanks again Red and all.

Outsomnia · 24/11/2019 22:16

I cannot understand why FPTP is acceptable in this day and age.

Rotten system and has led to many not bothering with politics anymore.

Why would you be bothered engaging, if the incumbent is a lifer and there is nothing you can ever do to change that.

Mistigri · 24/11/2019 22:19

This is hilariously creepy. Watch with the sound off. Matt Hancock looks like he's going to grab you by the neck and eat your face, silence of the lambs style.

twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1198719527963570176?s=21

squid4 · 24/11/2019 22:29

Sorry for earlier garbled message, if anyone saw it.
I think the NHS winter is really upon us - hospitals on divert today
I'm home now.
Working too many hours. third night in a row i've kissed sleeping kids I haven't got to see awake
Have started telling patients I am trying but I am powerless to change the system, they must vote and that the state of it is unacceptable
Johnson was at my hospital last week, it was grim, a muted horrified silence, everyone refused to meet him, there were staged photo shoots, all fake
I was on call and it was very very hard to manage, wards full of these public school sycophants while I was trying to deal with sick people
The hospital is a strong leave area and there's not loads of love for labour, but there is none whatsoever for johnson. Peopel turning their backs not shaking his hand.
Anyway, it was very hard to work through, and I don't really want to talk about it now

I have got lots of people registered to vote and chatted about labour with lots more

the media is even more grim when you're working 12 hour shifts and only check it when you come home. I think I am even more distressed by the unapologetic lying than the extreme right wing lurch. The doctoring footage is incredibly scary. The BBC...

I hear Corbyn got a huge reception in sheffield on Friday, I know some people who were there (who are definitely much older than students)

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 24/11/2019 22:29

"But Canning was v v old"

Canning died at 57.

Johnson is 55....

(But people live longer nowadays. Drat.)

Mistigri · 24/11/2019 22:30

This is pretty explosive. It's dated 3/11 but it's the first time I have seen it.

It contains some very specific and detailed allegations about improper behaviour at the BBC.

www.johnsweeney.co.uk/?p=letter.to.ofcom

OhYouBadBadKitten · 24/11/2019 22:34

pmk

SwedishEdith · 24/11/2019 22:34

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GeistohneGrenzen · 24/11/2019 22:37

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Peregrina · 24/11/2019 22:41

cannot understand why FPTP is acceptable in this day and age.

Because it suits the Tories and Labour. When they continually get hung Parliaments, they will suddenly find that a PR system has merit.

ListeningQuietly · 24/11/2019 23:14

( squid4 ) Hang on in there - you are in the right and will be proved so

IDontBelieveYou · 24/11/2019 23:16

PMK

TiddleTaddleTat · 24/11/2019 23:17

Pmk

placemats · 24/11/2019 23:18

Loving the 'cockwomble' in that Twitter thread Mistigirl

Thanks Red for the new thread.

prettybird · 24/11/2019 23:36

Pussycat balancing sleeping in strange place Wink

My dad (in East Dunbartonshire) was telling me that Labour is campaigning alongside the SNP in an effort to get Swinson out Grin - I presume that these are local Labour activists and not anything sanctioned by official Scottish Labour Wink

I also had an argument animated discussion Wink with dh and my dad: I was pointing out that at least some of the dislike of Swinson's tone of voice is a form of institutional sexism, with complaints that she sounds "hysterical"/"hectoring"/her voice is "too high"/she sounds like a wee girl/head girl (I've been guilty of similar comments myself Blush) ie she has a female voice box, which is higher than a male one ConfusedMargaret Thatcher had to get voice coaching to lower her timbre to make her sound more authoritative/be taken more seriously and over 30 years later, it would seem we haven't changed attitudes that much Hmm

NB: I don't have much time for Swinson (especially her delusions belief that she has a realistic chance of being the next PM) and I hated Thatcher (had to leave the room every time she came on TV) but I'm just uncomfortably recognising my own institutional prejudice about her natural voice Blush

We ended up having to agree to differ as they couldn't see anything sexist in their comments about the way she speaks.

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Peregrina · 24/11/2019 23:39

Squid - whatever complaints local people have about Labour, continue to impress upon them that the Johnsonite/ERG Tories will be much, much worse.

FMFL · 24/11/2019 23:43

PMK

Oakenbeach · 24/11/2019 23:43

From the last thread.... Why the message - let Boris Johnson and the Tories get in and say goodbye to the NHS isn't getting through to Leavers is absolutely beyond me.

Because they don’t believe it... I don’t believe it (and I’m not even planning on voting Tory!) We’ve had Tory Governments for most of the 27 of the past 40 years. At each election the opposition have said the NHS will be destroyed if the Tories win another election..... And yet it is still here. It’s like the boy who cried wolf.

For sure, investment isn’t what it could have been, and it is over-stretched, but it’s still the NHS and it’s still free at the point of delivery, and there’s no sign from the Tories that that will change.

Peregrina · 24/11/2019 23:44

especially [Swinson's] delusions belief that she has a realistic chance of being the next PM

Ten years ago did anyone expect Johnson to become PM?

Peregrina · 24/11/2019 23:47

At each election the opposition have said the NHS will be destroyed if the Tories win another election..... And yet it is still here. It’s like the boy who cried wolf.

I have to differ - parts of it have been privatised, but it's been done by stealth and they are still branded as being part of the NHS, so people don't realise. The more people feel that they are forced to go private, the easier it will become.