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RedToothBrush · 24/11/2019 21:25

The closing date for registration is this Tuesday

The weekend has seen the leaders question time debates.

Johnson failed to answer a question and the BBC edited later edited footage to change laughter at him to applause.

Swinson continues to prove that the Lib Dem campaign planners don't understand the electorate. They based the campaign around her and the more the public see her and the more she opens her gob she proves she's the witless headgirl who really knows fuck all.

Corbyn has now adopted a neutral 2nd referendum position. Far too late.

Jo Johnson apparently said that a good election manifesto is one people aren’t talking about 48 hrs later, and it seems that the Conservatives really have gone for that strategy.

Johnson had promised a manifesto for change yet of the three main parties it seems far from that. It avoids controversy for the most part, but also doesn't offer solutions to some of our biggest problems like social care. But with the Tories so ahead in the polls, the status quo and making sure they don't have a repeat of the 'dementia tax' car crash seems to be the order of the day. Because Brexit is going to going to provide a magic solution instead...

Meanwhile the Labour Party have gone completely the other way and really have gone for it and come up with ideas. With a mixed response from the public and press.

And I still can't tell you what is in the LD one, cos Prince Andrew...

This week should see the election come into focus as postal voting starts. As it stands its hard to bet on anything but a Tory majority.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 26/11/2019 13:57

damn. hang on.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 26/11/2019 13:58

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bellinisurge · 26/11/2019 13:59

That DUP leaflet is fucking hilarious. I mean, I love puppies and hate animal cruelty but is that what they have become- The "Lets Pretend We Aren't the DUP" party.

InMySpareTime · 26/11/2019 14:02

Has it ever snowed on polling day? I assume not, as they're rarely in winter.

prettybird · 26/11/2019 14:03

According to Sky this morning, which was reporting from Scotland as BJ was deigning is with his presence coming up to launch the Scottish Conservatives manifesto, the Conservative vote is holding up and they might only lose 1 seat Shock (presume that's Stirling where the lovely Alyn Smith is the SNP candidate): it's the Labour vote that is collapsing and they might end up back with just the 1 MP (still Ian Murray In Edinburgh, like 2015) and the SNP vote isn't progressing as much as they would like (although they are winning against Labour). Their argument was that "soft" Remainer Unionists are more strongly unionist than remain - which was always the risk for the SNP being upfront (and honest) about the Indyref2 pledge.

The Sky pundits did acknowledge it was going to be difficult to call, as there are so many extreme marginals, let alone "normal" marginals. Confused

Random18 · 26/11/2019 14:08

InMy don't know the answer but snow in may is not unheard of in Scotland.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 26/11/2019 14:12

The answer is yes, it has snowed a little during previous general elections.
www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoother/twocontent.aspx?type=tystat&id=928

OhYouBadBadKitten · 26/11/2019 14:13

I posted the wrong pic. Thanks MN for the swift intervention Grin

Snow percentage risk as given by GFS on one model run.

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DGRossetti · 26/11/2019 14:14

www.ft.com/content/d6f56834-0f78-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae

The Labour party deserves to form the next UK government

From David G Blanchflower and others

The UK economy needs reform. For too long it has prioritised consumption over investment, short-term financial returns over long-term innovation, rising asset values over rising wages, and deficit reduction over the quality of public services.

The results are now plain. We have had 10 years of near zero productivity growth. Corporate investment has stagnated. Average earnings are still lower than in 2008. A gulf has arisen between London and the South East and the rest of the country. And public services are under intolerable strain — which the economic costs of a hard Brexit would only make worse. We now moreover face the urgent imperative of acting on the climate and environmental crisis.

Given private sector reluctance, what the UK economy needs is a serious injection of public investment, which can in turn leverage private finance attracted by the expectation of higher demand. Such investment needs to be directed into the large-scale and rapid decarbonisation of energy, transport, housing, industry and farming; the support of innovation- and export-oriented businesses; and public services. It is clear that this will require an active and green industrial strategy, aimed at improving productivity and spreading investment across the country.

Experience elsewhere (not least in Germany) suggests a National Investment Bank would greatly help. With long-term real interest rates now negative, it makes basic economic sense for the government to borrow for this, spreading the cost over the generations who will benefit from the assets. As the IMF has acknowledged, when interest payments are low and investment raises economic growth, public debt is sustainable.

At the same time, we need a serious attempt to raise wages and productivity. A higher minimum wage can help do this, alongside tighter regulation of the worst practices in the gig economy. Bringing workers on to company boards and giving them a stake in their companies, as most European countries do in some form, will also help. The UK’s outlier rate of corporation tax can clearly be raised, not least for the highly profitable digital companies.

As economists, and people who work in various fields of economic policy, we have looked closely at the economic prospectuses of the political parties. It seems clear to us that the Labour party has not only understood the deep problems we face, but has devised serious proposals for dealing with them. We believe it deserves to form the next government.

David G Blanchflower
Bruce V Rauner Professor of Economics, Dartmouth College; Professor of Economics. University of Stirling; former member, Bank of England Monetary Policy Committee

Victoria Chick
Emeritus Professor of Economics, University College London

Lord Meghnad Desai
Emeritus Professor of Economics, London School of Economics and Political Science

Stephany Griffith-Jones
Emeritus Professorial Fellow, Institute of Development Studies, University of Sussex; Financial Markets Director, Initiative for Policy Dialogue, Columbia University

Simon Wren-Lewis
Emeritus Professor of Economics and Fellow of Merton College, University of Oxford

On behalf of 163 signatories. The complete list of signatories is here

prettybird · 26/11/2019 14:19

BJ just can't stop lying Hmm

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TheABC · 26/11/2019 14:19

More seriously, the older generation in my family is all reporting vicious colds and flu doing the rounds. I am urging them to place a proxy or postal vote, but it's more likely they will abstain.

Combine this with bad weather and you can expect a lower turnout. It's going to be one of the trends to watch on the night.

DGRossetti · 26/11/2019 14:22

www.kantar.com/public/our-thinking/election-centre/conservatives-have-11-point-lead-over-labour

But ...

www.kantar.com/public/download/documents/305/25+November+2019+poll.pdf

Result of the @KantarTNS* poll before turnout weightings were applied, 21-25 November (changes since 14-18 November):*

CON: 36% (-4)
LAB: 35% (+5)
LD: 16% (-)
GRN: 5% (-1)
SNP: 4% (-)
BXP: 3% (+1)

dreichwinter · 26/11/2019 14:24

@prettybird although joining the Euro would seem fairly sensible.
Not least because the Tories have helpfully produced parity more or less.

RedToothBrush · 26/11/2019 14:26

Britain elects @britainelects
Westminster voting intention:

CON: 43% (-2)
LAB: 32% (+5)
LDEM: 14% (-2)
GRN: 4% (+1)
BREX: 3% (+1)

^via @KantarPublic, 21 - 25 Nov
Chgs. w/ 18 Nov

Kantar had the Tories with the biggest lead of all the pollsters last week.

That's a big shift. Significant IMO.

Big question marks still, but this from Kantar would put us potentially in the hung parliament territory.

The last couple of days have seen this happening with several pollsters too.

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JustAnotherPoster00 · 26/11/2019 14:33

I bet its squeaky bum time at CCHQ

TheMShip · 26/11/2019 14:34

I like this youth-targeted ad from Labour - someone is being clever: twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1199225021119582208

TheMShip · 26/11/2019 14:34

Re: Kantar poll. Any changes in methodology?

Pan2 · 26/11/2019 14:36

is this because the more the GBP are exposed to the tory ghouls, the more they recoil in horror at the prospect of actually voting for them?

Pan2 · 26/11/2019 14:36

and there is a looooong way to go yet.

DGRossetti · 26/11/2019 14:36

I like this youth-targeted ad from Labour - someone is being clever

I really liked the Momentum Coca-Cola spoof/tie-in Grin

RedToothBrush · 26/11/2019 14:37

Kantar changed a couple of weeks ago. Their last poll was using the same methodology as this time.

I believe they are using a low youth turnout model too.

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RedToothBrush · 26/11/2019 14:39

But yes CCHQ will be starting to sweat.

It seems my constituency has been quietly dropped as a LD target. Although we've received over 20 LD leaflets in the last two months.

(compared with 2 for the Cons and Lab)

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DGRossetti · 26/11/2019 14:40

I was Googling* for "racist and unacceptable things UK party leaders have said", and this was #1. #tryharder Grin

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QueenOfThorns · 26/11/2019 14:48

Looks like snow here on polling day Shock

I will get there to vote, whatever it takes. I might ask the guy next door if I can cut through his back garden because it pretty much halves the walking distance to the polling station!

Of more concern is how I’m going to get DD to school/myself there to watch her nativity play Confused

ListeningQuietly · 26/11/2019 14:51

that is a cool labour ad
it does not insult us old gits but does put us in perspective

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