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Westminstenders: The Non-Pact Pact

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RedToothBrush · 12/11/2019 00:23

The Brexit Party and the Conservatives have agreed a trumpian pact to no deal. Led by the ERG.

They don't want you to know its a pact because the Conservatives still want One Nation Conservatives types to believe they are still One Nation Conservatives, simply because they say they are. They are not.

The Brexit Party won't stand any candidates in a Conservative held seat. But don't be surprised if there isn't more Non-Pact tactical stepping aside. This of course won't be a Pact. Cos the Brexit Party say its not. And the Conservative Party say its not.

The Liberal Democrats, Plaid and the Greens are in an electoral pact. They say they are in an electoral pact and have published a list.

Meanwhile the Labour Party isn't in a Pact. But there is still talk that in key seats that someone (either the LDs or Labour) should stand aside to try and deseat key Conservatives. This won't happen because the Lib Dems and Labour are not in a pact. And when they say they are not in a pact they aren't.

If after an election we have a hung parliament then either the Conservatives or Labour who are not in a pact and say they will never be in a pact, will try and woo someone to a kingmaker and be in government with them, probably on a supply and demand basis rather than coalition. They'll deny this but we kind of know how this goes...

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DGRossetti · 12/11/2019 16:27

As an Independent, you can only have "Indpendent" on the ballot paper, and no logo. You need to get people to associate your name with your cause via your campaign material.

I stand by what I said - that means nobody is going to know who their "Brexit" candidate is then. You'd need to whistle up a poster, leaflet and canvassing campaign that reached every household (c. 100,000) before 12th December.

MockersthefeMANist · 12/11/2019 16:27

RBKC very much a Tory council, re-elected after Grenfell when several cabinet members resigned.

A very bipolar borough, two worlds on either side of Holland Park Avenue.

mrslaughan · 12/11/2019 16:30

Ok - my apologies

Mistigri · 12/11/2019 16:30

I was once taught A level politics by a RBKC Tory councillor.

Only once mind, because he was fucking useless and so I skipped classes for 2 years Grin

mybrainhurtsalot · 12/11/2019 16:31

Was Aimee Challoner standing for the Lib Dems this time? She stood for the Greens in 2017 but didn’t get many votes. Anyway, belatedly saw the news that she has been suspended by the Lib Dems as her fiancé tweeted child abuse fantasies:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lib-dems-suspend-trans-campaigner-over-tweets

Mistigri · 12/11/2019 16:35

"The BXP has been urged to drop a candidate who co-founded a heavy-metal band whose members dress like Lufwaffe pilots and evoke other Nazi-era symbolism."

Oh Nigel. You did WHAT?

The election that just keeps on giving.

TatianaLarina · 12/11/2019 16:35

Kensington’s an interesting one because Emma Dent-Coad won it by 300 or so votes. I’m not sure if it’s ever had a Labour MP before. Certainly not in my living memory.

HesterThrale · 12/11/2019 16:36

The LD candidate for Uxbridge who’s stood down explains that it’s due to her mother’s failing health and that her family need her.

I was just musing on whether a male candidate/ politician has ever written/would write a statement along those lines?

uxbridgeliberaldemocrat.com/2019/11/12/important-announcement-12-november-2019/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Btw she talks of the party now having time to find another candidate before nominations close.

Maybe it’s better to leave it and and let Labour have a clear run at it...

TatianaLarina · 12/11/2019 16:36

I sincerely hope she retains it as she has been brilliant on Grenfell.

Sam meanwhile has punched himself in the face.

Mistigri · 12/11/2019 16:39

I think the LDs should do the right thing in Uxbridge (but avoid telling anyone until 15:59 on Thursday).

ArseDarkly · 12/11/2019 16:41

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JustAnotherPoster00 · 12/11/2019 16:43

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Boris Johnson, Gove and Cummings, key players in Vote Leave campaign slapped down by the UK Court of Appeal; the Electoral Commission was right to publish its report on how the Leave campaign broke electoral law.
What are they hiding in the Russia report?

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/electoral-commission-vote-leave-report-court-of-appeal-1-6371986

derxa · 12/11/2019 16:47

Kensington’s an interesting one because Emma Dent-Coad won it by 300 or so votes. More like 90 votes.
Very interesting profile
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Dent_Coad

MockersthefeMANist · 12/11/2019 16:48

Maybe BJ can't release the report because he had another argument with Carrie and used it to mop up the wine/sick/blood.

mybrainhurtsalot · 12/11/2019 16:50

Argh, does this screen grab work?

Westminstenders: The Non-Pact Pact
MyNameIsArthur · 12/11/2019 16:57

If the objective is to avoid Brexit then Lib Dems really need to make a pact with Labour I think

MockersthefeMANist · 12/11/2019 17:00

A Lib-Lab electoral pact is never going to happen. Both local parties at each others throats for decades.

Songsofexperience · 12/11/2019 17:00

Call me a cynic but is the goal really to stop brexit or just more boring politicking...

Icantreachthepretzels · 12/11/2019 17:01

There's been another cyber attack on labour .

MyNameIsArthur · 12/11/2019 17:03

then it's likely the Tories will be forming the next govt again if Lib Dems and Labour won't work together

MockersthefeMANist · 12/11/2019 17:05

There's been another cyber attack on Labour

And this is looking more and more like Bannon's Alt-Right chums.

MyNameIsArthur · 12/11/2019 17:08

Call me a cynic but is the goal really to stop brexit or just more boring politicking

I think so as the biggest issue facing us that will affect all other issues is Brexit

ArseDarkly · 12/11/2019 17:08

Ta brain, that works

TatianaLarina · 12/11/2019 17:13

More like 90 votes.

I’ve just looked it up it was actually 20. Shock