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Westminstenders: The Non-Pact Pact

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RedToothBrush · 12/11/2019 00:23

The Brexit Party and the Conservatives have agreed a trumpian pact to no deal. Led by the ERG.

They don't want you to know its a pact because the Conservatives still want One Nation Conservatives types to believe they are still One Nation Conservatives, simply because they say they are. They are not.

The Brexit Party won't stand any candidates in a Conservative held seat. But don't be surprised if there isn't more Non-Pact tactical stepping aside. This of course won't be a Pact. Cos the Brexit Party say its not. And the Conservative Party say its not.

The Liberal Democrats, Plaid and the Greens are in an electoral pact. They say they are in an electoral pact and have published a list.

Meanwhile the Labour Party isn't in a Pact. But there is still talk that in key seats that someone (either the LDs or Labour) should stand aside to try and deseat key Conservatives. This won't happen because the Lib Dems and Labour are not in a pact. And when they say they are not in a pact they aren't.

If after an election we have a hung parliament then either the Conservatives or Labour who are not in a pact and say they will never be in a pact, will try and woo someone to a kingmaker and be in government with them, probably on a supply and demand basis rather than coalition. They'll deny this but we kind of know how this goes...

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ListeningQuietly · 12/11/2019 20:41

Cannot watch the PPB here
am I right in thinking that the Tory party used Clash music / lyrics ?
If so I look forward to the court case ....

but again, as was said earlier
the law is reactive
wrecking of the legal rights is proactive

BestIsWest · 12/11/2019 21:01

Pmk.
BJ is my age and I still have my Clash vinyl from the 70s. Well, DS has it now.

dreichwinter · 12/11/2019 21:04

m.youtube.com/watch?v=97zPDojMWiQ

This is what I watched, assuming it is the same?
@ListeningQuietly

DGRossetti · 12/11/2019 21:05

Not having seen the PPB, which Clash song ? "Should I stay ..." I presume ? (Predictable).

Not "Clampdown" or "Spanish Bombs" or "Guns of Brixton" or "Straight to Hell" ?

I hope Mick Jones & Strummers estate sue.

TiddleTaddleTat · 12/11/2019 21:09

How the hell is he going to drink that tea without taking the tea bag out!!
Weird video. Creepy.

yolofish · 12/11/2019 21:10

No Clash music, he just said they and Rolling Stones were his favourite bands and these days mostly listens to the Stones. Good for Mick Jagger's tax havens I guess.

"I fought the law and the law won"? we can only hope...

DGRossetti · 12/11/2019 21:11

I am reminded of Stewart Lees comedy vehicle about booking bands for Cameron at Oxford Uni .... Grin

Peregrina · 12/11/2019 21:11

^One of the many things about Boris @BorisJohnson that makes him so refreshing a Prime Minister is that this is actually how he is:
If he was running a business he’d be in the shop floor canteen.
If captaining a ship he’d be down below decks.
He’s a VERY good leader of people^

Is the name wrong here? I can see Corbyn being that man, but not Johnson, not unless the shop floor canteen is full of toffs like himself. Or on a ship he'd be in the Officers' Mess, not the crew quarters.

DGRossetti · 12/11/2019 21:12

BJ is my age and I still have my Clash vinyl from the 70s.

I've still got NWA and Public Enemy somewhere ...

TiddleTaddleTat · 12/11/2019 21:12

Oven ready, slam it in the microwave...
Yawn

QueenOfThorns · 12/11/2019 21:14

Sadly no Clash music in the PPB. Holding a cuppa seemed to really cramp his style at the end, he’s not the same without all the arm waving. I think we have those mugs!

yolofish · 12/11/2019 21:16

Honestly, I have never felt such utter, visceral hatred than I do for that despicable piece of shit that is supposed to be our PM. And those pulling his strings. What a pile of absolute SHIT.

Tanith · 12/11/2019 21:16

He's been watching Tony Blair clips, hasn't he? Same hand gestures.

BlueGingerale · 12/11/2019 21:17

So in both Uxbridge and Canterbury the Lib Dem candidate has stood down TODAY and in both seats the Lib Dem’s say they’ll stand someone else.....

Peregrina · 12/11/2019 21:18

I didn't like Tony Blair, but he did have genuine charisma.

Icantreachthepretzels · 12/11/2019 21:18

He makes a cup of tea like an animal.
He used the words 'coalition of chaos' ... does anybody have the 'chaos under Ed Miliband' tweet hanging around? Fool me once...

colouringinpro · 12/11/2019 21:19

pmk

ClashCityRocker · 12/11/2019 21:21

I believe that the original drummer, Terry Chimes, was credited as Tory Crimes on their debut LP.

How fitting.

(I am a younger clash fan - wasn't born until a decade after their debut! Always fascinates me how many straight pegs at work now in their late 60s went to see them.)

BigChocFrenzy · 12/11/2019 21:24

pretzels This one ?

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BigChocFrenzy · 12/11/2019 21:29

Better with the date on
Seems like a few decades ago

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tobee · 12/11/2019 21:30

But will they stand other candidates BlueGinger? Be interesting. Could be crucial.

OublietteBravo · 12/11/2019 21:33

Boris is looking old and overweight, isn’t he? And he’s overfilled that mug - surely in danger of scalding himself with the tea. I notice he doesn’t show any interest in actually drinking it - obviously just a prop.

Ellie56 · 12/11/2019 21:34

And will BJ the Clown really go through with standing at Uxbridge if starts to look tight?

HateIsNotGood · 12/11/2019 21:34

Peregrina - you just hit a nail right on its head; 'Charismatic Leader' is a recognized descriptive and TB was all that. And a little bit more too...
in that we can look at various 'charismatic leaders' and find that the majority are on the extremes.

TB, whilst 'charasmatic' in Leadership style, is also viewed as 'Centrist-Left'. Yet he "prayed" with George W before deciding to bomb and invade Iraq. Which puts him into 'religious extremist' categories for me. Like a Crusade.

Ellie56 · 12/11/2019 21:36

Oubliette Old, overweight and scruffy. Not remotely statesmanlike. Angry

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